5772

I think that is used for at least some places here. I know she is using that for something. I think it was the fry’s food website that was giving my wife headaches.

@rrmorton yeah, that sucks horribly. My wife basically has a cart set up in amazon, keeps it updated, and looks for an open delivery time. Very time consuming.

5773

Yeah, it’s not pretty. Our state healthcare and mental health services were gutted by Branstad, and Reynolds is happy to keep the “privatize everything and fuck everyone” train rolling.

5774

Pretty sure that makes up the entire food pyramid, doesn’t it?

5775

I hope USA show the best of itself once the lock-down start. Not everyone is going to be smart, but if enough people is smart, the lockdown will just be a pause on human activity.

5776

Americans are buying lots of TP, Guns, and Alcohol.

So…

5777

They can use TP as gauze for those gunshot wounds when the hospitals are overrun.

5778

That’s the wrong question. He’s not comparing himself to me. He’s comparing himself to other people like him, but in different jobs.

5779

Regarding grocery stores being crowded, the way it works in Switzerland as of a few days ago is by strict admissions control. My tiny local mall is basically divided into a labyrinth built out of crime scene tape, each lane leading to a specific shop and then out of the mall. Every place where people might congregate (the Labyrinth, queues to the cashier, etc) has tape on the floor indicating where you should stand, to maintain the approved distance.

And then they have employees controlling the flow of people into each store, such that it never gets dangerously crowded.

5780

He is saying people like him, and experts on other subjects, scientists, doctors provide advice to politicians who make policy, but the people making the decisions don’t always listen to them. Your position is that Trump’s views on nuclear weapons and Soviet/Russian affairs are just as valid and well informed as his views. Just because it isn’t a physical science doesn’t mean his opinions on the subject he is well versed in don’t hold more weight than a neophyte like Trump.

5781

I think the problem right now is there isn’t a lot of data to hang on to. Given that there are probably a few parameters with no priors, the model could predict just about anything. If we can get a quantitative test in the field to test individuals, maybe this becomes more tractable. I absolutely agree that the hypothesis seems valid, though. Just no idea how one would get traction without data.

We discussed a different but related thing today : When studies look at the virus survival rate on surfaces, the test measures the total amount of viral material. However, for a virus molecule to be able to infect someone, it has to be complete and undamaged. So at time [x], what fraction of the virus is complete and could reinfect someone, and what fraction is chunks of broken down virus. Knowing that distribution might give us much better guides on how soon surfaces are safe. The difference here being we can get synthetic copies of the virus and we have ways to measure the breakdown, so we can fill in that parameter.

5782

I have it from good authority that if someone really needs it or wants it it’s essential.

5783

That’s true.

5785

And today’s market close is the first one since this crisis that will end up below the stock market Trump inherited on January 20th, 2017.

5786

Well, with Spring Break happening in Florida, we could easily be looking at an explosion in cases in a couple weeks time.

5787

Who knows how many Americans have been infected so far, it’s probably over a million. If we actually do ramp up testing over the next three weeks the reported numbers are going to skyrocket. And I predict Trump is going to get more and more rattled and unhinged. He is not prepared for these big numbers coming, he is going to blame everyone around him and deflect, deflect, deflect. No compassion ever. What an asshole.

But I can see public anger and messiah complex coming.

5788

Meanwhile the governor of NY after every daily update is pretty much becoming the man I want to vote for president, that isn’t running. :(

Cross posted this in the Corona mental health thread also, as not enough politicians are speaking out about it.

5789

The fact that cities and states in Freedomland were entering lockdown long before the UK did alarmed me most of all. Vegas is shut down and Wetherspoons is packed? Fuck me. I’ve been knee deep in arguments all week with right wing lunatics defending their position on it. The owner of the biggest pub chain in the UK was on the BBC prime news show and allowed to argue to keep the pubs open this morning. This. Morning. It’s negligence on a national scale.

When the final numbers roll in those that acted fast will need to be recognised.

5790

Cuomo says 4 months at home, eh? You are going to be sick of rice and beans after a week, so I hope the supply chains are healthy.

5791

Nope. I’m saying that there are people who work for Trump, indirectly, with the same expertise as his expertise, and that those people are both experts and policymakers, or that policymakers take their advice rather than his. There are disciplines where this is probably not true, of course — like epidemiology! — but those disciplines are realms of real expertise, not disciplines of differing policy opinions.

5792

His entire point was that sometimes politicians don’t take expert opinion. That’s it. I know you don’t disagree with that, so I have no idea why you keep trying to argue. :)