Cyberpunk 2077 - CDProjekt's New Joint

It will certainly be a long wait :) By why even bother with the previews? Speaking for myself, I am certain to buy this game anyway, so previews serve no purpose. I have no need or desire to read endless back-and-forth about whether the game is sufficiently diverse to please the perpetually unhappy ‘reviewers’ at RPS.

What you’re really saying is that you don’t care about cultural criticism of the game, particularly in advance of its release. And that’s fine! I don’t particularly care about it either, since it has no context, isn’t in its final form, and has been actually played by very few select people. But, you know the folks at RPS probably like all the same games you do. They post glowing reviews all of the time. They are very enthusiastic about gaming on personal computers. They also post cultural criticism, which somehow makes them targets for disapprobation. They’re certainly not “perpetually unhappy”. It is a nuance of actual lived experience (vice the perpetual online shitstorm of social media) that it is entirely possible to be critical of something and still enjoy it.

CDP Red answer to the ‘controversy’.

Oh look, it’s almost exactly what I wrote some hours ago. Who could have thought.

That is a pretty thoughtful answer on the subject.

With that said, I also understand the skepticism of those who’ll need more evidence that CDPR are learning from past mistakes, too.

What past mistakes? If you refer to the twitter account thing, CDP and CDPR are separate companies.

Yep, but one publishes the other, and they’re going to be associated with one another by the general public regardless.

If I can’t get nude in-game digital trading cards (a la The Witcher 1) of sexy trans girls then CDPR isn’t even trying anymore.

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Any print or YT video game “journos” that use the terms “SJW” or “virtue signaling” get an unsubscribe and ignore from me. Unfortunately some IRL friends have recently fallen down the racist shitbole that consists of Ezra Levant, Faith Goldy and Ben Shapiro and have become ex-friends. Also super weird since they’re Asian.

Forgetting the game for a moment, you have to appreciate the pure marketing genius move.

You search for random E3 videos, and it seems most people have put the Keanu reveal as cover. He is the face of E3 2019, and by extension Cyberpunk also is.

For me a comparison with Assassin’s Creed Odyssey is instructive. In that game I sometimes go out looking for scraps because the combat is intrinsically fun. In Witcher 3 I would fight stuff if I had to.

Witcher 3 is the better game, because like many CRPGs, it’s more than the sum of its parts and can survive weaknesses in its “crunchy core” (see also: Ultima series).

The latest Netrunner game had wonderfully inclusive and thoughtful art and world-building. There are about two cards I’d consider to let the side down on that front, and that’s a pretty amazing track record.

They had a cast that covered all sorts of demographics without making their demographic their defining feature. It was great. I hope CDProjekt do half as well. Maybe the demo was unrepresentative.

It’s a very real issue, but it’s also a very complex one that isn’t made any less messy with a product sold in so many markets of so many different cultures. It’s also in a genre that was forgotten for a while and may have issues getting adapted to modern views.
At the end of the day, what matters is that creators try to do right and for critics to have an honest discussion about it. Twitter and a small preview aren’t enough to say anything one way or the other.

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lol I’m a registered dem but OKAY. That’s exactly the attitude I’m talking about.

So is that attitude that she, me, and many others don’t want to bother with, that is not “OKAY”.

Wow. This entire post is a foreign language to me. I’ve never heard any of the terms. The only name vaguely familiar is Ben Shapiro, but I have no idea what he does. I thought about educating myself with a few Google searches, but seeing the replies I’m guessing it is yet more P and R ugliness on the internet.

Shame that it’s cropping up in the Cyberpunk thread, but considering the mainstream popularity, I suppose unavoidable.

God knows the original Cyberpunk pen & paper RPG, Mike Pondsmith, the designer, and the Gibson books that spawned the genre had nothing political to say.

No doubt games are plenty political. Just were not taken seriously enough to get bent about it for the longest time, aside from extreme examples.

Was nice while it lasted. Those days are done. When you see an Overwatch tournament on antenna ABC in the middle of a Saturday afternoon you know times have changed.