Deus Ex 3

Brian_Seiler · 2011-08-24T09:43:20.000Z

MarchHare:

I don’t really like that my ability to perform takedowns is tied to an energy meter that can only be refilled by consuming a powerbar, though. Is there an upgrade I can take at some point that allows my energy to recharge automatically over time?

Your last energy bar does this. All of the other energy bars do not, so far as I am aware at this point. If you’re moving as slow as I am, that’s good enough, but I imagine I’ll have to go faster at some point after the first mission.

jeffd · 2011-08-24T09:44:47.000Z

One thing I love about this game relative to the original: there are no weapon skill stats.

I don’t like games where I’m a badass secret agent who can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Deus Ex 3 has some weapon augs, but it’s for stuff like eliminating aiming bob while moving. As long as you’re sticking to cover you can headshot guys with the pistol from a pretty good distance.

Sarkus · 2011-08-24T09:48:12.000Z

MarchHare:

Played this for a little over an hour last night (got through the prologue and maybe half of the first “real” mission). I’m planning to play with a similar style as I did Alpha Protocol: mainly stealthy/hacking/non-lethal, but willing to use a firearm if the situation calls for it.

I don’t really like that my ability to perform takedowns is tied to an energy meter that can only be refilled by consuming a powerbar, though. Is there an upgrade I can take at some point that allows my energy to recharge automatically over time? If not, are the consumables plentiful enough that this never really becomes a problem?

Yes, there are augments for that.

Miramon · 2011-08-24T09:51:22.000Z

Grifman:

This is silly, it’s a game.

I was trying to be a bit funny there. But apparently not.

PapaSmurf · 2011-08-24T09:52:05.000Z

jeffd:

One thing I love about this game relative to the original: there are no weapon skill stats.

I don’t like games where I’m a badass secret agent who can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Deus Ex 3 has some weapon augs, but it’s for stuff like eliminating aiming bob while moving. As long as you’re sticking to cover you can headshot guys with the pistol from a pretty good distance.

Yeah, I hated that about Deus Ex.

First mission at the statue, and I pick a sniper weapon. Turns out that my combat-trained, cybernetically augmented super-badass agent holds the gun about as steady as I’d expect an 8 year old to.

jeffd · 2011-08-24T09:59:22.000Z

The DX3 philosophy is much better. Instead of starting off incompetent and becoming a badass, you start off as a badass and become EVEN MORE badass.

mono · 2011-08-24T10:07:08.000Z

I didn’t pick up on the tap vs hold on takedown attempts, and horrifyingly slaughtered a couple of guards on the first mission. Eep.

scharmers · 2011-08-24T10:13:14.000Z

Angrycoder:

System Shock, System Shock 2, Deus Ex 1

And Bioshock. And Crusader: No Remorse. Basically, anybody who has played or was involved with System Shock and then went on to design a game has a keypad with 0451. :)

Scotch_Lufkin · 2011-08-24T10:42:13.000Z

jeffd:

The DX3 philosophy is much better. Instead of starting off incompetent and becoming a badass, you start off as a badass and become EVEN MORE badass.

LOL, yeah that’s about right. Though playing on Hard right now, I certainly DO NOT feel like a bad ass. More like a sheet of paper what can haxx0r teh goode.

Crater · 2011-08-24T10:48:17.000Z

Chuck Jordan:

I don’t get it.

The first door code (in some cases, subtle variations on it) that you come across has been the same in many games before it - System Shock, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc.

Even though it was made by a totally different development team, it was nice to see that little homage thrown in there.

Telefrog · 2011-08-24T10:55:59.000Z

thehillissilent:

I’ve been playing the OnLive version (comes included for free in PC retail boxes in the US).

Speaking of which, Gamestop is purposefully opening the packages and removing the OnLive codes from the PC copies of the game.

Ars Technica

GameStop opening Deus Ex boxes, removing free game code

A leaked memo shows that GameStop employees have been asked to remove the free …

Is this even legal?

Jason_Townsend · 2011-08-24T11:00:13.000Z

LOL! Unless the publisher and Gamestop have a really weird contractual relationship…

Jason_Becker · 2011-08-24T11:01:41.000Z

Telefrog:

Speaking of which, Gamestop is purposefully opening the packages and removing the OnLive codes from the PC copies of the game.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/report-gamestop-opening-deus-ex-copies-removing-free-game-code.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

Is this even legal?

I haven’t set foot in a Gamecrap store in years. Count this as another among many reason why I never will again.

WarrenM · 2011-08-24T11:05:27.000Z

Telefrog:

Speaking of which, Gamestop is purposefully opening the packages and removing the OnLive codes from the PC copies of the game.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/report-gamestop-opening-deus-ex-copies-removing-free-game-code.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

Is this even legal?

I can’t imagine that’s legal, no. You’re being contracted to sell the product given to you - not to sell the product that you feel like selling. I guess it depends on the contract wording but I imagine that sort of thing must be boiler plate by now.

WarrenM · 2011-08-24T11:06:17.000Z

In other DX3 news … any way to scale the HUD? I’m playing at 2560xwhatever and the radar and health indicators are microscopic. It’s rendering the radar all but useless at this point.

Panda · 2011-08-24T11:07:29.000Z

I thought they were already on dubious footing by selling opened product as “new” but this is just way too far. As if I needed any more reason to never buy from them again.

Sarkus · 2011-08-24T11:11:02.000Z

Telefrog:

Speaking of which, Gamestop is purposefully opening the packages and removing the OnLive codes from the PC copies of the game.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/report-gamestop-opening-deus-ex-copies-removing-free-game-code.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

Is this even legal?

Seems like a very slippery slope for them to go down. I mean if this is justified in their minds because it promotes a competitor, then what exactly are Steam games when GameStop is now Impulse? That’s where the logic leads, anyway.

My guess is that this is typical GameStop - take a stand when you know it won’t hurt (Squenix is a small publisher and DEHR isn’t perceived as a huge title in retail from what I can tell) and ignore the exact same thing when it will hurt.

RepoMan · 2011-08-24T11:12:22.000Z

So you get XP for not letting anyone see you during a mission. This is a sleazy question, but does it count as “seeing” you if you do a non-lethal takedown? Or did you beat the guy so fast he was out before he even saw you?

I ask because I just love knocking guys out, and it would be a fun bonus if I could do so with abandon while still getting the “unseen” tag. But I guess it would also be a bit wack. Ah well, hopefully I still get XP for the non-lethal takedowns. Mr. Headknocker, that’s me.

(Though I suppose I could go for being unseen and doing all my damage by hacked-robotic proxy… nah, takedowns AND robot hacking, that’s the ticket.)

MarchHare · 2011-08-24T11:16:07.000Z

One of these days I’d love to see a developer add an Easter Egg in the form of a door with no reference to the keycode anywhere in the game and no way to hack/pick the lock. The door would lead to a supply closet containing a few helpful (but not essential items). The only way to open the door is to know the 0451 code from other games.

Scotch_Lufkin · 2011-08-24T11:16:37.000Z

I’m almost positive I got the Ghost XP bonus when taking guys out before they were aware of me.