I had a similar thing happen yesterday with all my toons missing. Did basically what stusser suggests and all was good.
robc04
3142
I finished my expert difficulty campaign and ended up level 49 with my Barbarian. Since I donāt have Reaper of Souls, my only choice is to play the campaign on a harder difficulty level with my barbarian or start a new character, right?
As Iāve said before, Iām not really a fan of the Diablo model of play. I donāt really get excited about getting loot that will let me do a little more damage, or heal a little bit faster. Clicking on monsters and pressing an ability once in a while just isnāt interesting to me. Iām guessing the expansion, or playing the campaign again doesnāt really add anything to the mix to really change that, correct? Just want to make sure Iām giving it a fair shake before hanging it up.
If youāve reached level 49 and you still donāt like it, then youāve given it a fair shake. You have my permission to quit now.
robc04
3144
For some reason I do have a hard time stopping games Iām not really crazy about when they are so popular. I just didnāt know if there was some other mode of play that changes up enough to maybe change my mind.
Yes, I know I am an idiot :-)
TheRock
3145
Not really. Unless you get Reaper of Souls and then you have Adventure mode which helps a bit with the same old same old.
I can play for 15-20 hours in a few days and then leave it for a month or two and then get into it again.
My whole goal is to get to finish the highest level soloā¦and I know I will be playing for a looooooong time to attain this goal which is great that I can play off and on and that way I donāt really get tired of it for good.
I found that solution shortly after I posted, but I had already uninstalled. Doh!
Resist the peer pressure!
Bounties and Rifts are far more entertaining IMO than the campaign, though you should do the campaign on one character to see it all. I started a season/HC wizard last night when the season started, and Iāve gotten to 38 so far (just on hard, though), doing nothing but Bounties and Rifts. Itās kind of neat, as the first seasons character you roll has nadaāno stash, no crafters, nothing. Itās all a found loot thing, which I enjoy.
Wait⦠So no crafters, stash etc the whole season ? Or you can add them later?
If the former thatās very D1!
Squee
3150
They start out at 0, so you have to re-buy/train them over the course of the season. Although Iāve heard that apparently stash space carries over. Not sure myself since I donāt have much interest in leveling in D3 ever again. PoEās my āMake new characters and dick aroundā clicker, and D3ās my āLet my eyes glaze over and watch numbers slowly get biggerā clicker.
As Squee says, you get to retrain all your crafters in seasons mode. You also start with the bare minimum stash. I donāt know but I suspect that for your second and subsequent seasons characters that season, everything is shared just as within the regular game.
I find POE more intriguing as well; I only wish they had something like adventure mode, because I frickinā hate half the maps in the game.
jpinard
3153
Interesting. Ironically my favorite AARPG so far has been Titanās Quest. I loved that game. Why do you hate the maps so much? Also, why do you and a lot of people find Path of Exile so nice? Errr also also how do they make money and make the gameplay decent if itās free? Do you pay for expansions? Does it cost $50 for 10 inventory slots? Is it pay-to-win? Do I ask too many questions?
Squee
3154
Yeah, the map system is kind of a drag. I get around it by being inept enough that I never reach the nightmares of high level mapping. Itās a shame because I like PoEās map system a lot more in theory than I do in practice.
To get to high level maps in PoE you have to do a lot of grinding. The maps are basically randomly generated dungeons with special modifiers (Some good, most bad) generally with more/better loot and the possibility of being higher level than most other content. The maps themselves are items you can find, but then you use additional items to pump them up to get fancier maps generally which is where a lot of the grinding comes in. Itās not like a D3 rift where you just insert a token and get a dungeon and then grind for gear, you grind to make the token better so you can then grind for XP/gear. For the most part thatās only a tippy top highest level problem though, and since PoEās significantly harder than D3 itās not a problem youāll run in to unless you know what the hell youāre doing and have been playing a while.
They make money seemingly entirely from cosmetics. You donāt pay for expansions, all the content is 100% free, and absolutely THE only piece of gameplay content theyāll sell you are extra stash tabs, but they also give you 4 or 5 for free which is easily enough unless you really get into the game. So no, itās the least pay to win free to play game out there. Itās also the least pay to play free to play out there. Youāre not crippled or gimped in the slightest compared to someone who dumped money on it. Canāt even buy XP/item boosters for cash or anything like that, which is good since thatād ruin the game pretty quick.
Edit: Figured I should explain the cosmetics a hair. Theyāre mostly just alternate appearances for items. So you can buy some snazzy looking plate armor cosmetic and then you apply that to whatever gear youāre wearing and then it changes your appearance. You can then peel off the cosmetic and apply it to some other piece of gear later. Each time you āBuyā a cosmetic you can have one instance of that in use at a time, so if you buy a āFlamingā particle effect for your weapon you can have one weapon using that at a time. If you want to dual wield flaming weapons (Or have two characters using it) youād need to buy another, etc.
There are also a few alternate skill skins (Change raise zombies into raise mummies, etc) and a few cosmetic pets (Toad with a crown that follows you around and does nothing, etc).
jpinard
3155
So do rare drops still get great looking particle effects, skins, and nice models?
Started a season character on Expert I think, but went back to leveling my HC non-season character. Dropped the difficulty to normal so I can just power through, finish it and open up Adventure mode for HC characters. Since starting to play HC characters in D3 and PoE, I kind of enjoy it more, but donāt really want to run through the damn campaign every time. There is something quite fun about just smashing through on normal difficulty and just having mobs and elites alike melt before me. It also makes me wonder if I have been playing wrong, opting for slightly higher difficulties over clear speed and greater volume of loot.
Yes, I believe so, the purchasable cosmetic options are just additional/different effects.
Put it this way, there are no shortage of snazzy particle effects going off when playing PoE, even without epic levels of loot.
If you have not played it, and dig ARPGās, you really, really owe it to yourself to play it. It really is exceptional - and I have never actually leveled past the mid 30ās or so.
The other cool thing, as far as stash tabs go, you can basically buy as many as your heart desires. If you are a hoarder and trying to collect rares and set items, or complimentary gear, go for your life and keep as much as you like, unlike D3 which is a constant exercise in frustration.
olaf
3158
I think they did a great job with 2.1. Greater Rifts and Legendary gems are kind of like Paragon-light, and give you another reason to do the same shit you have done for hundreds of hours. Seasons too, probably, though that type of leader board, resetting, gameplay has never appealed to me personally.
Squee
3159
Not so much particle effects, but skins and models yeah. Although the fanciest appearances are reserved for the cosmetics. Someone wearing top of the line blinged out max level ridiculous gear will look like a hobo compared to someone wearing fully cosmetic covered garbage. Since PoEās look and style is more grimdark and low fantasy anyway thatās not exactly a bad thing, since looking like a hobo fits in with the rest of the game more than dual wielding lightsabers and having spinners on your shoulders, whereas it fits in Diablo 3 more.
As a brief example, hereās a midlevel PoE character with what looks like some average gear.
Hereās a PoE character with some cosmetics. And heās actually way more subdued than a lot of the blinged out guys youāll see in town, but Iām too lazy to sign on to take a screenshot of someone myself.
If youāre still curious about what they peddle, theyāve got the shop on their webpage. Technically they also sell character slots but you functionally have all you need. The free cap is something like 30-40 characters I believe, and of course you can delete characters to make room. https://www.pathofexile.com/shop
By and large you donāt get particle effects without shelling out dough though. If you find a weapon that does fire damage it wonāt show up on the weapon itself, though itāll still do bursts of fire when you slap monsters IIRC. Actually canāt remember even though Iāve been playing the hell out of it. Doing a caster at the moment so Iām not doing any monster hitting myself.
Edit: Hours later when I hop on PoE thereās a perfect example. Lady in purple is me. Dude with fancy plate armor and tentacle wings, burning skull, and burning feet is a guy covered in cosmetics. Iām higher level than him. (Although admittedly my gear is pretty crap)
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/567772874594296041/E089C3CA02A9ABE859833197A5ACE92A87A88619/
And speaking of Diablo 3, god damn it. I load up my crappy wizard on a whim and do a few bounties on hard or expert or some damn thing since heās got basically no gear and low and behold I get a treasure goblin portal. Still got 15-20 million gold out of it (And a few uniques) but it pains me I didnāt get it during all the time I was actively looking for it on my torment 3 guy. Cool area though, and Iām glad they added something to do occasional gold dumps since (As mentioned) getting gold to craft gems is a pain.
Aaaaaahhhhh, power failure!
Phew, all ok! Lucky on normal I am basically invincible!