3641

Bounties, yes, until 70–but I disagree with RoRG as a goal: it recently got huge droprate buffs based on your torment level, so I’d argue you don’t need to bother trying for it until you can do about t4 (60% drop rate!) With my seasonal char, I didn’t try for one until I was clearing t3 and wanted to free up an armor slot; it dropped in my second bounty bag on t3.

I’d say bounties to level 70 to build up a small pool of rift keys with the intent on focusing rifts and grifts after to improve your gear.

3642

Clan has 16 folks who have hit 70 in seasons: 5 crusaders, 2 WDs, 4 wizards, 3 monks, and 2 DH.

Clan has 4 folks who have hit 70 in season hardcore: 2 wizards, a crusade, and my monk.

Don’t the rest of you know how to GRIND?!?!

Just noticed: not a barb in the bunch. You all get dizzy spinning? ;)

3643

My post (here) was actually getting at this a bit, but I think the best approach is to do bounties in whatever act(s) you find the most fun until you hit level 70, while playing around with different build set-ups to decide what you want to focus on.

Once you hit 70, it’s time to start worrying about DPS and toughness - use the mystic, the blacksmith, and upgraded gems to get your crit chance, crit damage, primary stat, vit, and resist all up to a point where you can run T3/4.

Once you’re at T3/4, it’s worth farming for a RRoG, and choosing a build based on one or more transformative legendary items (things that alter your skills in a significant way). That is, this is the point where you should actually hit the guide and try to take charge of your gear. Figure out which items you’d ideally be wearing and either go farm in the places they drop or focus on gambling them off Kadala. Once your DPS / toughness is solid, it’s probably best to stockpile mats for mystic re-rolls of the gear you really want.

EDIT: Oh, and bear in mind that the legendary drop rate in rifts is much higher, so if you have enough keystones and aren’t actively farming something from a specific cache, you are better off in a rift.

3644

ahem Zorn would like to have a word http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/aeneas-1168/hero/52718525

3645

Thanks for the suggestions on what to do :-)

3646

When you say do the lowest level greater rifts possible, does that mean I should stand still and let the first wave of monsters kill me?

3647

You can if you want, or you can just immediately town portal out and wait until you fail the trial.

3648

My Barbarian is now level 67 and I completed all of the bounties for Act I. Admittedly some gave me some trouble. I’m playing torment level 1. I’m in my first rift and it’s really hard. I have to rely on my Call of the Ancients skill - meaning I have to wait for it to recharge before I move into a new area. The creatures will slice and dice me without Call of the Ancients. How do I know what difficulty I should be playing based on my character level? If I’m having trouble at Torment 1, does that mean I really need to take a look at what skills I picked? I never really tried to optimize them. I just picked 1 to stun surrounding enemies, 1 to damage surrounding enemies, 11 to make me take less damage and call of the ancients. I wouldn’t really like direct answers - like pick this skill, but if someone could nudge me in the right direction on how I can evaluate if I’m at the correct level and if I need to modify my build. Thanks!

3649

Higher difficulty levels are really tough before max character level, because you have leveling equipment, an unoptimized build, etc. Level at whatever difficulty ensures you very rarely die, never have to sit around, and kill normal non-elite monsters in 1-3 hits. When you hit maximum level, then you craft optimized yellows to reach torment1 and start the endgame doing rifts, etc.

3650

Thanks, I guess I should have stayed at master. Strangely enough I am doing a little better on the lower levels of this rift. I’m 73% of the way done, but it is taking much longer than I would like. The weakest non-elites I may kill in 4-5, but there are others that it easily takes 2x that.

What do you mean by optimized yellows? Adjusting the equipment perks with that lady that lets you change the perks?

3651

Gettting the optimal enchant per slot. Ie, chd and chc on gloves, chc, chd and elemental damage on amulets and so on. Shockmesane made an excellent post about this a few pages back.

3652

Yes, all that stuff. It’s very, very inexpensive to craft and enchant yellows, so you can get near-optimal stats in every slot. Of course legendaries can offer more stats per slot, as well as set bonuses and special abilities, so at 70 you’re looking to transition from optimal yellows to imperfect legendaries/set pieces that make sense for your build.

A big part of this is realizing that poor legendaries are much, much worse than optimized yellows. Don’t wear an item just because it’s leggo. Salvage the crap.

3653

Yeah, when you first learn to salvage crappy legendaries, you gain a new sense of freedom! Seriously, it was a struggle at first, as I’m conditioned by MMOs to adhere slavishly to the color progression.

One thing I’ve found about crafting, though, is I always run out of the lowest mats, the Common Debris. You have to actually remember to gather crappy white weapons for that purpose, or at least make a few Halls of Torment or whatever the jail levels are in Act I to loot torture tools every once in a while.

3654

Requesting a spot back in the QT3 clan when possible. Pretty sure I got wiped out in the recent purge since I hadn’t been around since March, but it won’t let me ask for an invite (says I asked for an invite ‘too recently’… uh… no?). I finally grabbed RoS with the recent sale and have a baby crusader in the works. daagar#1407.

3655

Added :)

3656

Awesome, thank you. See you all in game!

EDIT: Hmm. Doesn’t show that I’m in, and it still whines that I’ve ‘requested an invite to recently’ to try again. Will try and catch an officer online sometime.

EDIT2: Scharmers got it all fixed up. Huzzah!

3657

Okay, so now that I’ve put some time in on my baby Crusader (awesome class thus far… easily my favorite at the moment), I realize that maybe I should have done it as a seasonal character. I didn’t look into anything about Seasonal because I just associated it with ladders, which I don’t have the time/ability to do… but have since read that there isn’t any reason NOT to. Do I stop and start over with seasonal, or just continue as-is?

3658

There is no reason to not do seasonal, unless you really don’t want to re-do what you’ve done. The only strong argument against seasonal is if you already have a ton of paragon levels, which makes it take a lot of time to get back to gaining comparable amounts of exp/hour, if you care about such things.

3659

I’m a whopping lvl 21 on the Crusader, no paragon levels. Guess I’ll be restarting tonight then. On the bright side, maybe I’ll actually find some pub games with actual people…

3660

Ok, ok, so the recent 50% off got me to bite on this finally (D3 plus RoS). Plus, I’m in the mood for some clicking. Could you add krayzkrok#1102 to the QT3 clan, and I shall try not to disgrace myself. :)

I haven’t touched this since the beta, but all I know is that starting on Normal is probably not a good idea. Still, I’ll have a while to think about it, as it’s going to take some time to download!