Dungeons of Dredmor - Graphical Roguelike-ish Awesomeness

Warpstorm · 2012-08-03T06:36:28.000Z

Giaddon:

Restart Steam?

Thanks. That actually worked.

jpinard · 2012-08-03T14:22:32.000Z

Jason McCullough:

oh fuck yes I am skolling the hell out of this shit

HAHAHAHA! I almost spit my iced tea on my keyboard.

jpinard · 2012-08-03T14:41:59.000Z

Dreamshadow:

Help! I want to enjoy this game, but my mace wielding, shield bashing, Viking magic using dr jones doesn’t seem to be getting far. I don’t know if it is the fact that I seem to be coming down with something (and that has accidentally put me off games before, damn fevers) or what, but I’m having trouble finding the motivation to move forward in discovering this games nuances. Anyone have suggestions? Clearly there is a love for rogue likes here, and I’m a fan of step and bash dungeon crawls. Help?

(I’m aware that the game at self isn’t largely at fact here. I’m hoping for some suggestions that might focus my play short term so that I might get involved for the long term play. I had the same problem with terraria until I was shown what happened when various bosses were killed and what I would need to do to prep for the eye boss.)

I get what you’re saying as you often don’t have the story-based itinerary of some other games. So what I’d suggest you to get immersed is going to sound really odd, but might do it for you.

Commit yourself to playing several builds quickly in permadeath mode. Actually plan on dying to build out a feel for each build. This is the one game I don’t mind dying in unless I’m past level 3. If it feels too slow, choose “No Time to grind” for the quick-builds. You can spend a long time in this game. After you’ve done a bit more goofing around, go for a real build. If you choose a build with crafting, become a hoarder and enjoy the collecting process. If there’s something you don’t like to do because it grates on your nerves (worrying about eating or drinking) then choose a class that emits those functions. If you choose Vampire you can no longer use food period. If you choose non-magic builds, drinking will have no function.

Then go and play the “full deal” when you find some you want to explore more fully (or whatever you haven’t tried).

Plan elaborate traps for the Diggles. Some of the most fun I had was (cheating a bit) by shutting the game down after finding a monster zoo, then setting up a wicked series of traps to pull them monsters into.
Mass destruction. If you don’t like collecting traps via one of the Rogue skills, then go for a build where you get explosives and collect explosive cross-bolts. Once again, the HUGE fun is sending one of these deep into the middle of a Monster Zoo and watching the utter chaos of death and destruction.
Keep a heavy eye on your skills so you’ve always got plans for your next selection. This gives me the “one more turn” syndrome. It’s of course important to have a build that gives you this kind of drive. Having at least one crafting build will push you but make sure you don’t neglect your primary ability so you can stay alive.
Sometimes I cheat a bit and “Ctrl-alt-del” if a super-weapon doesn’t get what I want.
Try to get so many enchants that the “scotch-taped-extra-long-sideways” thing is added. Some of the most fun I’ve had is trying to get my attacks to have every single type of damage in the game then watching the a full paragraph of damage text appear every time I hit something.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2012-08-03T15:16:24.000Z

jpinard:

Sometimes I cheat a bit and “Ctrl-alt-del” if a super-weapon doesn’t get what I want.

Fun fact: if you Alt-F4 while playing it will drop you straight back to the main menu, if you want to do some save-scumming.

I second making a bunch of permadeath test characters to get into the game. I would add to this the idea that you select skill such that every character has a completely different set of skills until you have at least seen the skill tree for every skill. Then after your characters all die off you can pick all the skills that you used the least or try to make a theme.

On the topic of the new skills in the latest expansion, anyone have any idea what Insurance Fraud does? I’ve been using it on monsters I kill and occasionally myself but I never notice what is happening. Once I used on something and got a sudden stream of 30,000 zorkmids into my pocket. I haven’t seen that happen again but I have somehow gotten 50,000 bucks by the second floor due to fraud-related activites.

Telefrog · 2012-08-04T08:16:31.000Z

What the!? There’s no Achievement for mastering the Axe skill?

Dreamshadow · 2012-08-04T08:39:18.000Z

Well, finally made it to level two and had the silliest moment yet. My viking mace Dr. Jones opened the first door on L2… and revealed a Monster Zoo. I promptly started slaying everything in sight. big grin

Malkroth · 2012-08-04T09:16:43.000Z

What happens when you complete a monster zoo is pretty funny. Made me laugh at least… Then my game crashed and I had to do it again. >.<

MrCoffee · 2012-08-04T13:47:59.000Z

The spear stances are insane.

edit: also i loved seeing an “El Eternauta” monster in the game hah.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2012-08-04T18:12:50.000Z

Well crap, I actually made it through a Mysterious Portal level and found an Imperial Boilerplate Helm along the way, but now the game crashes when I try to leave via the other mysterious portal. Of course the latest blog post from Gaslamp says that it’s a known crash and you should just never use mysterious portals for now. I sure hope they manage to fix it just because the character trapped there is my Clockwork Knight/Rogue Scientist/Tinker/Smith/Axe wielder who actually found the plans for Clockwork Chainaxes and Clockwork Power Limbs. Never again will I have such a chance to get that achievement!

Daagar · 2012-08-04T20:28:52.000Z

Okay, really dumb question because I lack basic observation skills. This game has been in my backlog for some time, but I was pretty sure I had purchased Realm of the Diggle Gods. So I hopped into Steam to pick up the free ‘You Must Name This Expansion’ DLC, and there on the DLC page it offers all 3 packs to add to my cart. Now I’m thinking crap - I didn’t purchase it. After stumbling through Steam for a bit, I decided whatever and loaded up Dungeons. Sure enough - I have the option on my New Game screen to include Realms.

After much searching, I finally found the account history page in Steam where I could finally see that I did buy it. It can’t be this hard to see what DLC I’ve purchased. What blindingly obvious thing am I missing?

Giaddon · 2012-08-04T20:37:15.000Z

Right click the game’s name in your library, and the menu will have a “view downloadable content” option.

Jason_McCullough · 2012-08-04T20:41:13.000Z

How on earth do you get the “name the expanion pack” achievement now?

Daagar · 2012-08-04T20:51:09.000Z

Giaddon:

Right click the game’s name in your library, and the menu will have a “view downloadable content” option.

As expected, I feel really dumb now. Thank you.

Jab · 2012-08-04T20:51:49.000Z

Jason McCullough:

How on earth do you get the “name the expanion pack” achievement now?

On the main menu there is a tiny button that you can click on that changes the title page graphic and what expansion pack is showing.

Jason_McCullough · 2012-08-04T23:07:59.000Z

Victory! Almost as amusing as the crash achievement.

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2012-08-04T23:30:07.000Z

Step 1: Open monster zoo.

Step 2: Commit the most insurance fraud.

Step 3: PROFIT!

lordkosc · 2012-08-05T00:23:27.000Z

You’ll never have to work again!

Kool_Moe_Dee · 2012-08-05T01:01:04.000Z

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

Hmm, mysterious crashes from interacting with ancient save-games. Sounds like a good reason to delete them all and start all new and exciting characters!

Devil’s advocate: OK with Dredmor, not OK with Fez?

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2012-08-05T01:50:26.000Z

Well with Dredmor you know it will actually get patched. Suck on that, Fish!

(That issue has already been hotfixed!)

In other news I did not realize that vampirism no longer works on half the creatures in the game. Trying to recreate a new version of my unarmed dual-shielding armored vampire from before the first expansion (who made it to the 9th floor!) failed miserably when I hit a monster zoo on floor 2 that was mostly undead and led by a glowing robot.

ineffablebob · 2012-08-05T07:35:44.000Z

Got my Dungeon patched up with all the DLC this morning and ran up a random character. Made it to floor 3 before face-planting. I really like the pocket dimension, very handy.