Dwarf Fortress: Very Ambitious Roguelike

peterb · 2011-06-12T16:22:51.000Z

Adventure Mode, a.k.a. “the part of the game that no one has any interest in playing” a.k.a. “Like a roguelike, but not fun.”

Morberis · 2011-06-12T16:31:17.000Z

And yet his monthly donations are higher than ever which seems to speak to his paying customers interests. I for one wold love DF’s adventure mode to be as detailed as UnReal World.

Not as fun yet, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have the potential to be fun. And most importantly for him, diversify and expand his paying audience.

peterb · 2011-06-12T16:35:14.000Z

I dunno. I paid the guy, but that doesn’t mean that it was out of any self interest. I viewed it as kinda like supporting art.

chequers · 2011-06-12T18:51:51.000Z

I pay in months when the bugfixes outweigh the features and when there are no (or few) adventure mode changes. I’m putting into practice my belief that economic systems use payment as a form of intent signalling.

Calistas · 2011-06-12T22:05:46.000Z

How’s that working out for ya? ;)

Gus_Smedstad1 · 2011-06-13T06:47:48.000Z

I’m guessing he hasn’t had to spend much, using this system.

chequers · 2011-06-13T18:04:01.000Z

The economics joke is that you can’t differentiate a non-participant from someone whose needs have not yet been met.

zengonzo · 2011-06-13T18:58:56.000Z

And that’s why there’s not a lot of crossover between economists and comedians.

Gus_Smedstad1 · 2011-06-13T19:42:09.000Z

Have you heard the one about the marginal utility of credit default swaps?

Calistas · 2011-06-14T02:02:41.000Z

zengonzo:

And that’s why there’s not a lot of crossover between economists and comedians.

It’s also why I don’t invite chequers to parties!

fenrir · 2011-06-16T20:44:55.000Z

Pogo:

Let me know when Dwarf Fortress: Finally Playable comes out.

The playable version of DW came out a few years ago. If you missed the window I wouldn’t hope for it to ever become playable again. I lost interest with the introduction of left&right gloves/socks/boots. I still check on it every once in a while but it’s been getting more detailed instead of more fun. If only I were smart enough to keep that sweet spot version of it, I’d probably still be playing it.

chequers · 2011-06-16T21:18:36.000Z

40d was a bit of a sweet spot. But the problem is once you try a new version you can never go back. How can I live without bees and near-invulnerable goblins/forgotten beasts?!

Squee · 2011-06-16T22:49:04.000Z

fenrir:

If only I were smart enough to keep that sweet spot version of it, I’d probably still be playing it.

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/older_versions.html

fenrir · 2011-06-16T23:16:47.000Z

Squee:

old version link

Very cool, didn’t realize this was there. Looks like my sweet spot was somewhere around 22.123.23a.

chequers · 2011-06-16T23:24:00.000Z

0.23.130.23a was a popular version too, it’s the one that the wiki was originally created for.

Sir_Digby · 2011-07-21T10:32:48.000Z

chequers:

40d was a bit of a sweet spot. But the problem is once you try a new version you can never go back. How can I live without bees and near-invulnerable goblins/forgotten beasts?!

STOP EVERYTHING!

Bees?! Can you brew mead now?!

And the farming was pushed back to allowing all farming on soil and irrigation on stone?

Time to strike back the earth, haven’t played since 40d.

Aeon221 · 2011-07-21T12:23:59.000Z

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5143/screenshotlv.png

Bottom right image. Is that an actual playable view? As in, is there a non-ass flavored UI that works with those graphics? Because holy hell I could see playing the game if that was the play window and the UI was no longer as useless as a jello dick.

Demolira · 2011-07-21T12:30:38.000Z

It’s not a playable view. You still play in the DF window, but that Stonesense window will show the terrain you’re viewing.

Sir_Digby · 2011-07-21T12:52:38.000Z

As an IRL drinker of mead I find the ingame value of mead (1, lower than the basic dwarf wine from Plump Helmets) outrageously unfair! shakes fist

Downloading the LNB, kinda worried I’ll mess up my fort after reading some stuff about medical care…

Pogo · 2011-07-21T14:24:30.000Z

Aeon221:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5143/screenshotlv.png

Bottom right image. Is that an actual playable view? As in, is there a non-ass flavored UI that works with those graphics? Because holy hell I could see playing the game if that was the play window and the UI was no longer as useless as a jello dick.

Yeap, but it’s never going to happen, because Toady doesn’t care what you or anyone else thinks, he’s making the game he loves, and we should like totally respect that or something.