Wait, Leyndell Catacombs connect to Deeproot Depths? I thought you had to get there from the aqueduct past Nokron.

They do indeed through a super secret hidden impossible to find without a guide path. You can actually see that they’re appropriately located on the big map. The Nokron path is far more straightforward.

Secret door or something. I have basically quit looking for them unless there are messages everywhere.

Wait wat

Yeah… and there’s a bossfight there that is required for a key questline, too. Areas like that are one reason my chars all dip into faith a bit. Having on-demand cures for rot, poison, etc. is incredibly useful.

Oh, one hint of general usefulness: The shackles of margit/ morgott evidently send out a large, invisible AoE attack that does zero damage. That means they will trigger secret doors, flame pillars and similar objects in a huge area. You can pop one when you enter a catacombs.

Once again I will state for the record that invisible walls are bad and dumb.

This just gives more credence to Deeproot Depths feeling a little… empty. Deeproot Depths are the end of the line of so many places, and feels underdeveloped for how important it is. I like that place, love the color scheme, but it seems like maybe it needs some fleshing out.

I don’t disagree. I mean if I wanted to kill the Elden Tree, I’d poison the roots, not burn the branches.

If it’s behind an invisible wall, that would be dumb. But if Matt says the secret path is in those catacombs, then I’m wondering if the pathway to the depths from there is gotten to by going through that dungeon in a particular way. What with how that dungeon works and all. And that would actually be really neat.

It is behind an invisible wall. In fact two of them.

Man, I remember when we started playing this game and thought From had gotten rid of invisible walls.

So, should I have burned the Erdtree after beating the Fire Giant? And after talking to that Shabiri character a little down the mountain I wondered if I was supposed to offer myself up, but the option was never there.

That guy is talking about something quite hard to reach.

Here’s VaatiVidya’s first big lore breakdown. There are lots of endgame spoilers in here, from the first few minutes and throughout, so it is meant to be watched if you have completed the game or don’t care about spoilers. It covers the creation of the Elden Ring and the Golden Order, as well as lots of the game’s history and the major players (Marika, Radagon, Godfrey, etc).

Someone said they read a prelude to the game to give background on lore (or something like that), and that made them enjoy the game more. Can I get a link to that?

I’m not sure if this is the same one, but I did find this one helpful by the same guy:

It’s based on stuff from the closed network tests, which only (if I remember correctly) had parts of Limgrave and Liurnia available, so a lot of it is him theorizing and making some educated guesses. But I found it helpful with making some sense of who the various factions are.

For purists, you could just stick to the official trailers and the opening cinematic to glean some lore, but honestly, I’ve found that all of those make a lot more sense after you’ve spent time with the game and have a rough idea who Godfrey, Marika, Radagon, Radahn, Rennala, Malenia, the other Tarnished, etc, are.

I took a break from the tree swamp to hit the crumbling city (is this where all the huge chunks of building around Limgrave come from?) and ran into the duo and now I just want to die.

I found Ranni yesterday after Caria Manor. So I finally some have inkling on what you guys have been talking about for the past month.

That was a lot of voice acting by the way, and good voice acting. All four of the voice actors at the start of that quest did a superb job. It’s one of the rare cases where the voices grab your attention and make you pay attention, in a game in which I otherwise couldn’t care less about story and plot.

The souls games have always had pretty great voice acting, especially compared to a lot of other games.