I played vanilla Oblivion on the 360 before I got the PC version much later and I loved it. I wasn’t even aware of the complaints until I started looking for mods on the PC.
kedaha
2722
I read the universally glowing reviews of Oblivion and bought the game on release. Said game did not tally with reviews and I found the overall experience to be laughably poor. Found it interesting that a few years later, same reviewers who called it best RPG ever etc etc talked about how it was flawed, and more generic than Morrowind and yada yada yada.
Will get Skyrim, but will wait for patches, mods and a sale :)
To be fair, a lot of the complaints with PC Oblivion are specifically around the PC UI, which was poorly adapted from the 360 UI.
Anyway, I played the whole game on the 360, like Bethesda intended, and it was great. I hate mods, actually, because they make the game world feel too mutable and unreal. Just knowing that I could open up an editor and tweak some stuff, and maybe drop a +200 Sword of Awesomeness right over here, means that the illusion of solidity is shattered.
flyinj
2724
I personally can’t wait to play this.
What is driving me absolutely insane is whether to get the better graphics in the PC SKU, which may still contain the horrible microstutter issue that plagues every Bethesda RPG rendering it unplayable for me, or the solid non-microstutter 360 SKU which will lack all the graphical bells and whistles.
Uuuggggghh
FNV finally got rid of the microstutter for me, but I did have to turn off VSync.
RepoMan
2726
I can’t buy 360 games anymore, 1920x1200 has spoiled me rotten. Every big game I’ve gotten this year (Portal 2, DX: HR, and soon Skyrim and Arkham City) is PC all the way.
flyinj
2727
Not for me. Vsync or no vsync, I got it. The only thing that actually removed it was a mod. Unfortunately the mod made all the lip-syncing go out of sync. It probably also made a bunch of other crap not work correctly, such as enemy running speeds and whatnot, who knows.
Were you using NVidia? There’s some frame render ahead limit I remember doing.
flyinj
2729
Nope, ATI. 6750 1 gig to be exact.
And trust me, I tried tweaking everything and was never able to remove it.
I played the PC version originally. Loved Morrowind, could not get into Oblivion. I modded the shit out of it and still could not get into it.
Years later (early this year to be exact), I got a 360 copy and started having fun with it. Blame it on lowered expectations of a console versus a PC RPG and playing on a 42" TV on the couch (my PC monitor is only 17").
Or maybe it’s that after giving Fallout 3 a chance (on 360, basically same story as above) and really enjoying it, I forgave Bethesda for Oblivion and decided to give it a fair (5th) chance (with little expectation…Morrowind it was not).
Gunny
2731
I always play games like this in Vanilla form (i.e. no mods whatsoever) first. Then, once the GotY ver. ships with all of the expansions and/or DLC, I grab some significant mods and go nuts. I might wait for the inevitable first patch this time. A few recent screw ups have soured me on day 1 gaming.
Blips
2732
This is pretty much what happened to me as well which is why I’ll be waiting for the GOTY edition too. I just hope it doesn’t take them too long to release the GOTY version with the expansions / DLC.
mono
2733
Then don’t get a 30" display. 2560x1600 has already spoiled me for the next generation of consoles that won’t be out for years.
RepoMan
2734
My 26" Hannspree is just fine, thanks, especially since I sit in a recliner with my knees inches from the screen.
flyinj
2735
The way to do it is hdmi to your big screen TV. I also have my 5.1 system connected as well. 360 controller on the couch. All the convenience of a console with cheaper digital downloads that actually run and look better than the console versions. And you avoid going to the store.
Except with Bethesda games because the have that damned microstutter!
The GTTV thing was pretty cool, they revealed three dragon shouts that were all very useful sounding as well as a bit of info that might be considered a spoiler, so I won’t reveal what it was without a tag (below) but MY GOD is it cool.
The new footage was honestly amazing looking, but it was interspaced between regular footage, so you had to be on your toes to see it. Still… bears. Jebus those things are terrifying.
‘gttv spoiler’
Summonable Dragon ally! Assuming you can find and complete whatever special events/quests are needed to gain his trust, of course.
‘dragon shouts detailed’
The Ice Breath shout encaed a target in ice, much like the paralyze spell, the Ethereal shout made you transparent and immune to damage (even falling damage) for a short time - though you cannot attack in this form, and the Elemental shout imbued your equipped weapon with a nice looking air-elemental animation and improved your attack speed with said weapon for a short time. All three looked amazing.
Looks like a great Elder Scrolls, but as always it also gives the feeling of a game that because is so big in scope, the individual parts are not as good as in other games. For example, some parts of the combat against groups, the enemy AI seemed very very simple and uninteresting.
I suppose every game have his trade offs.
You might have watched different footage than me. :) But I would rather be reserved and pleasantly surprised vs. very excited and let down. Sadly, I can’t WILL myself into the former catagory, so I’ll have to hope for the best.
I saw a mudcrab the other day. Nasty little creatures.
