That can probably be explained by Bethesda’s intense desire not to have any PC builds of the game leak. At least, that’s why I’d be keeping the PC release under wraps if I were them.

So what if Amazon shipped it? Just return it to them without opening it. Their return policy allows returning boxed software, AFAICT.

It’s not being circulated very broadly, if at all, prior to retail release. Maybe next week.

For those (like myself) excited about the stratey guide - Prima tweeted its finished, and it’s massive.

http://twitter.com/#!/ElderScrolls/media/slideshow?url=yfrog.com%2Foew3m8j

Mother of God, a 650+ page strategy guide!

Thats alot of strategy!

That strategy guide looks pretty awesome. Thinking about getting it.

My problem with strat guides in general is that when I buy them, I think “I’m not using this the first time through, because it’ll ruin things for me - I want to play it ‘normally.’” So I might glance at something now and then but for the most part I don’t use it.

Then I finish the game and think “I’ll play through this again later, and use the strat guide then.” And then I don’t play through it again.

But that IS one heck of a nice looking strategy guide…

I like to get them for games I’m excited about, but (so far without exception) only strategy and RPG games.

I always enjoy reading the opening of a good strategy guide (and I’m sure this one is no exception) where the author talks about strategy, character builds, and general tips and tricks. That’s fun to look through when I’m away from the game (cough Shitter) and then having the guide is handy for when a question does arise during the game I want to look up, no alt-tabbing and posting on a forum and waiting. ;)

I do the same thing though, I’ll plan to play later and then I won’t right away, but some times (F:NV) I do and it’s awesome to have the guide and just devour as much content as you can in a second (and in the case of F:NV, THIRD and FOURTH) play-through.

The Skyrim Hardcover is the first strategy guide I’ve purchased since this one, Age of Empires, in 1997. That was the first RTS I really tried to sink my teeth in to, and I wanted a better grasp of what I was doing wrong. I had played other RTS games before that (predominately Warcraft II), but I never really tried to hone my skills till AoE.

I’m not exactly sure what to expect from this book because I’ve always had the mindset that A) Much of the content (hard numbers anyway) is obsolete by the time the game releases, or at least by its first patch, and B) Whatever I want to know can be dredged up on the internet.

In this case I was enamored by how cool the hardcover looks, so I jumped on it. I don’t know exactly what will be inside, besides a bunch of walk-throughs (I’ll probably try to avoid as much as possible on my first run through) for quests. But, what I’d like to see (assuming this stuff is in game), is a list of potions, recipes, ingredients and the source of these ingredients. I’m all about discovery, but when it comes to trade skills I don’t always have much patience, and I want it all spelled out for me. I’m more than happy to go questing for that super rare ingredient that only comes from the horn of a Pegasus or something, but I don’t want to spend four hours blindly scouring the countryside for some flowers that only grow in one particular type of cave on the other side of the world.

I also love maps. Like most folks I’ll be holding off from relying too heavily on the book on my first play-through, but once that’s out of the way, and I feel I’ve sufficiently explored everything to my satisfaction, I look forward to cracking this baby open and comparing what I’ve found on my own with the details and maps in the book, then running off and exploring what I’ve missed.

Armor and weapon stats are nice, but not mandatory for me. Magic spells, stats and descriptions are important though. I never feel as though some big secret has been spoiled if I have access to this stuff up front, I just think of them like Civ skill trees or something – so I’ll probably be reading up on whatever the book has to say about these right from the get go.

In addition to all this I find it easier to read hefty amounts of lore and back story in book form rather than on my monitor. So, while I never spent much time reading books in Oblivion, I’ll be more than happy to peruse this same text if it just happens to be included, or at least summarized in the guide.

Finally, artwork. I hope there’s some cool concept art and the like.

I’m eager to find out.

The good news is that the Oblivion guide is more or less still correct even after all the patching. The guide is good for when you’re lost in a quest or for knowing who you need to talk to next.

Even the stuff that is no longer valid is fun to read, if only to see what changed.

How is that even possible in Oblivion?

You guys have almost talked me into getting the strategy guide. It’s pretty cheap on Amazon.

Exactly what I was thinking. Doesn’t the game always tell you exactly where to go, whether your character should actually know or not?

Not always. There are a couple of quests that require you to be somewhere specific at a specific time or the quest step never fires. You can follow the arrow to the spot, but you’ll just be looking around like a doofus if you’re not there at the right time.

Also, the next person to talk to in a quest sometimes wanders.

I think you’d mainly use the guide to learn where there are new places to kick off quests. I can’t imagine someone not being able to complete a quest once they’ve got started, if they’re like Oblivion and Fallout.

Tony

http://www.elderscrolls.com/community/completely-blue-sky-concept-skyrim/

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The quest marker followed the wandering person in question but I may be misremembering.

Jesus christ…

This is what happens when you let your art department design a web page.

Well, the design lead pretty much has free reign after his award-winning design for the cover of Smell the Glove.

Ok you people talked me into the strategy guide. Jerks. Also, I got the collector’s one because it was only $7 more and includes access to an online/interactive map.