Imryll
2981
The first time I experience the beginning of the game I want it to be “about” my character. There’s a reason spoilers are called spoilers. ;-)
Sarkus
2982
You live in Yewtah. What else are you going to be doing in mid-November? ;-)
HRose
2983
Exploring is fun in handcrafted worlds. That the ES games are not. That’s why 99% of modders’ work was focused in actually trying to put some static content in that world so that it was worth spending time exploring it. “Exploration” is the singe feature that sucks the most in Oblivion.
The Witcher 2 will continue to be superior to Skyrim in every way possible (including the graphic engine), but it’s not American, so it won’t do for the hype.
Giaddon
2984
Yeah, you tell him that his feelings are wrong!
RepoMan
2985
Tomorrow our monthly budget rolls over and I am going straight to Gamestop to preorder the collector’s edition. Yes, yes, I know, I know, but I actually consider Gamestop the most reliable release-day source for physical artifacts. If I weren’t getting the collector’s edition I would go on Steam.
I’m getting the collector’s edition because…
…this. One of the two concept artists in that vid is a personal friend, so I am looking forward to geeking out on the art much harder than I ever have in any game yet, and the art book is a win for that. Plus we don’t have any nerd art in our living room at all, and that dragon will look sweet on the coffee table :-D
HRose, I bet you thought Fallout 3 sucked too? I hope so, because I put 100+ hours into that game and it was all about the exploration, and I could use more confirmation that you and I are diametrically opposed, fun-wise.
These games are so different, I can’t imagine anyone choosing one over the other. I don’t play a Witcher game to get open-world random encounter exploration, and I wouldn’t play an Elder Scrolls Game to get a mature handcrafted experience with graphic violence, sex, and a decidedly Eastern European flavor.
You know, I like the Witcher 2 quite a lot (I’m playing it for a second time right now, in fact), but this sort of thing is getting tiresome. Will it continue to be superior in its presentation of a large open world with varying terrain, towns, and environments? Will it be superior in its array of available character races, classes, and specializations?
They’re completely different types of games. I wasn’t a fan of Oblivion, but I don’t think you’ll find many people to agree that the exploration aspect was where it was lacking.
He has a point, though. Oblivion is very generic and exploration is discovering the unknown. In Oblivion you kinda know what’s in a dungeon as soon as you step a foot inside for example. You can anticipate because of the genericness.
Dark Souls is much more about exploration, for example. You never know what to expect around the next corner.
I’m a huge fan of TW1 & TW2 and I think this statement is ridiculous.
The TES games do have faults but no one else is even attempting the same scope that Bethesda does any more (not counting Fallout:NV).
Giaddon
2991
Exploration can be satisfying because of finding completely unexpected things, that’s true, but there is also satisfaction from an appreciation of the world/environment. Also, I think you’re selling the surprise in Oblivion short. I, at least, was often surprised by what I found. I don’t know what being “handcrafted” has to do with it, Witcher 2 was nekkers in every direction. Forever.
Are you asking if I meant Two Worlds by TW1 & 2 (I was referring to The Witcher games) or are you proposing Two Worlds as a viable competitor to the TES games?
If the latter…perhaps, but I’m not all that familiar with the series even though I own the first one (ugh). Do those games have the same scope with regards to the various game play systems?
I did not play through Two Worlds 1, but while Two Worlds 2 was an open world, it was not to the size and scope of an Elder Scrolls game. There was very little worth while exploration to be had that was not directly related to a quest.
Nithrakis: The latter.
While I played only the first one and found it comparable in scope.
No, they don’t. The second one’s worth a look all the same. I.e. Steam sale.
Imryll
2996
The Witcher 2–disappointment of the year for me. Really enjoyed the first one though.
The Witcher 2 looks pretty, but I felt as though I were constantly being harrassed by the devs to do it their way. I know many love it, but it leaves me cold.
I intend to pick it up at bargain prices at some point during the RPG drought that is surely coming at some point next year. Same with Gothic 4.
Well up until this Weekend I had planned to be playing Sword of the Stars II for at least a few weeks before I needed a new game.
But that blew up with the craptacular release. Maybe in another month it will be patched into a working game.
So now I need to find something else to keep me entertained until I get Skyrim. Playing SoTS I and some other stuff. And Netflix has Star Blazers on instant now so watching that.
Hmm I have The Witcher I, but have never played it. Might try it out.
