That’s odd, I never had any problem disenchanting everything, aside from items with enchants I already know.
candide
4922
You can’t disenchant items that are named? Are there rules for that? 'Cause I think I’ve disechanted a bunch of "so and so of so and so"s. Maybe I just haven’t paid much attention.
DeepT
4923
I have found plenty of items you can’t disenchant. I always assumed it was because the “enchant” wasn’t something you could normally get. For example, take that bow. I have never seen an item that has that effect before. Any of the dark brotherhood and thieves guild effects can’t be disenchanted.
I found an amulet of talos with a 20% shout duration reduction. I can’t DE that. I did find another “named” amulet that gave a reduction in casting cost for healing spells. I could DE that.
Some good news. Giant Bomb says the first patch is dropping on Wednesday. So now I’ll know what the game really looks like. Which should be good, because even with the crap textures it’s not too bad to look at.
RepoMan
4925
Gah, you can’t disenchant the Talos amulet? I suspected as much but was going to try tonight anyway, because that would be some fun enchantment abuse. I would love to be able to shout every five seconds :-D I’d shout the damn bears right off the friggin’ mountaintops!
Regarding that specific item, there are two versions of the amulet of talos, one which is a random loot item which apparently CAN be disenchanted and a quest reward which CAN’T.
I haven’t tried disenchanting anything from the DB or Thieve’s Guild but i’ve been able to disenchant everything else so far.
MrPerson
4927
“Fixed rare issue where dragons would not attack”
“Fixed rare issue with dragons not properly giving souls after death”
Hah, rare…
“ESC button can now be used to exit menus (PC)”
That’s good, but I still question why it didn’t work that way from the start…
Skipper
4928
I wonder if leveling your enchanting and trying to disenchant that again would make any difference?
DeepT
4929
I have had both of those problems. Mostly its the dragons circling and never attacking. I wonder if this patch will break some of the mods, like that DLL injection one that changes how rendering works. Where are the official patch notes?
It’s a tech limit not a balance limit.
MrPerson
4931
Yeah, the first time I had that I tried for an hour reloading to force the damned thing to engage. Now I just ignore dragons unless they’re actively engaging me or something nearby.
I’ve missed out on probably 4 dragon souls so far. Eventually I just started using the console to deal with it.
The console is a godsend. I’ve also used it to complete quests that stay stuck in the quest log, and to clear out inventory clutter from quest items that are never removed.
Skipper
4932
I’ve had both of those issues but it never stopped later dragons from attacking. I think I have literally 15 souls banked with nothing to spend them on. Not a big deal.
Skipper
4934
I think so, Tim, but I can’t remember where I heard that. Maybe the long demo at Quakecon?
DeepT
4935
Ok, a quick google search gave me the very limited patch notes. No crash to desktop bug fixes. None of the many broken quests fixes listed.
How do you use the console to fix a broken quest? For example, I had a quest to get a briar heart from a forsaken. The problem was that I already had one. I got another one, but I still could not get the quest to advance. Another quest had some book, the hanging gardens I needed to get. I had the book in my inventory. I couldn’t give it to the NPC, nor drop it and pick it up again.
How would I fix that? In my second game I was going to avoid going into caves and stuff unless I had a quest for it so that I didn’t accidentally pick up some non-dropable quest item before it was time.
MrPerson
4936
The wikis often have IDs for the quests and their stages, and sometimes you can resolve issues by manually setting your quest stage. That can also lead to weird issues, and some quests are just too borked to really be sorted out.
In many cases, if you’re having a problem with a stuck quest, so are a lot of people and you can find the exact commands people have used successfully to sort it out.
The bards’ college quests are pretty much all broken, not completing properly if you already had the item and not removing the item when you complete quests, and so far easily resolved with the console.
I may see about getting the busted “return to skald” objectives out of my quest log tonight.
Yeah, but it’s a bit of poor planning that…
Spoilers!
…you get that shout (Dragonrend) fairly late in Act 2 of the main quest. It seems to me that they should have given you that shout early in Act 1 and made Dragonrend something specific to the boss dragon.
Sarkus
4938
My companion just pushed me off a very high spot to my death. Maybe its time to switch companions.
JeffL
4939
As a level 20 archer, who has not really spent time reading and maximizing everything but rather just spending my perks mainly on archery and sneak (and occasionally saying, hmm, wonder how a scroll works? Let me try it - that wasn’t right, OK, let me try to conjure up a fire antronach or whatever they call them - not enough magika? Hmmm, oh well) - blood dragons, the ones that spout fire, are almost impossible for me to kill. I hit them with my highest damage arrows (current the ones that do about 14 damage) with my elven bow (what, 29 or so damage?) and I use fire resist potions (though the ones I have only give me a 20% at best protection) and I tip an arrow with a poison but I do very small amounts of damage per arrow hit, and he comes up and lights me on fire, and my health drops like crazy, so I run hide, try to heal myself, go back out, repeat, etc. and the chances of me killing him are crazy low. In fact, last time I took one on, I got him down finally to about 50% health and he just disappeared! Argh!
candide
4940
Enchant some gear with resist fire damage and enchant your bow to do ice damage - they add up (ice also slows them down)! So it’s e.g. 14 damage from arrow + 25 ice damage + bow damage rating on every shot. Increase the overdraw perk any chance you get. The slow time down perk is your friend as well (oddly enough, I think the 25% one works better than the 50% one, which costs too much stamina). I had no problems taking down dragons with my archer character (finished the main quest with it)