Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim announced

Royal_Fool · 2011-11-29T22:12:42.000Z

And on that note, Bethesda sure “did things right” with the new 1.2 patch on the PS3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk2SbJnsXFM

Telefrog · 2011-11-29T22:15:06.000Z

Royal Fool:

And on that note, Bethesda sure “did things right” with the new 1.2 patch on the PS3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk2SbJnsXFM

Holy crap. Why does it take so long to load?

kerzain · 2011-11-29T22:15:23.000Z

THAT LOAD TIME

Royal_Fool · 2011-11-29T22:19:22.000Z

Oh, and here’s another really fun one.

kerzain · 2011-11-29T22:22:30.000Z

Well, at least the music is epic.

Sebmojo · 2011-11-29T22:50:30.000Z

kerzain:

Well, at least the music is epic.

I’m sure I can see a perplexed look on the dragons face.

MrPerson · 2011-11-29T23:23:19.000Z

Time to disable steam automatic update…

MrPerson · 2011-11-30T00:30:53.000Z

It’s a little underwhelming when your first fight with the big bad ends in a single power attack, just like every other “boss.”

MrPerson · 2011-11-30T01:26:08.000Z

There really should be some “Fall in line or I will burn you to ash” options when dealing with various “important” figures, rather than just being their bitch. It’s not as if they don’t know you can make good on it…

I did just make one npc writhe around on the ground in flames for about 3 minutes after they issued some moronic ultimatum. Eventually they crawled under a table in agony and became stuck.

Pogo · 2011-11-30T01:49:35.000Z

MrPerson:

It’s a little underwhelming when your first fight with the big bad ends in a single power attack, just like every other “boss.”

Is this with “smithing/enchanting at stupid levels” build or something more restrained?

Also, Normal diff?

MrPerson · 2011-11-30T02:00:26.000Z

Normal difficulty, smithing but not super abusive smithing (no alchemy), and limiting myself to two +damage pieces of gear rather than the potential 4. I’d estimate his health to be about the same as any high end trash enemy. Unless master difficulty scales him more than other enemies, that’s still a problem.

If he’s anything like other high end versions of his sort, he only has about twice the health of a top end draugr, and you butcher swarms of those things at once.

Tony_M · 2011-11-30T02:13:47.000Z

Sebmojo:

Tom’s always worth reading, even if you disagree with his overall conclusions he’s nearly always spot on with his observations.

“You and me, we’re the only people around who aren’t complete fools”

TurinTur · 2011-11-30T02:50:14.000Z

I am playing this game a lot, four days already where i play all the evening and in the end i even play up to 02.00am, two more hours than i had planned each day. So the game is doing something right ;).

But that said, it still have two main flaws for me, the mediocre combat, and the poor “human” element (npcs, backstory, dialogue, quest execution, etc) of the game. Some people forgive these two points because hey, the game is so fucking huuge!

And yes, it’s absolutely astounding the amount of content in the game, I agree. But that’s saying quantity > quality. I prefer quality over quantity. In fact, I would gladly exchange half of the game content for raising the bar a bit more in these two points. I don’t need a 250 hours game, being honest, I would prefer a better game even if it’s “only” a 100 hour game.

Telefrog · 2011-11-30T05:56:33.000Z

TurinTur:

And yes, it’s absolutely astounding the amount of content in the game, I agree. But that’s saying quantity > quality. I prefer quality over quantity. In fact, I would gladly exchange half of the game content for raising the bar a bit more in these two points. I don’t need a 250 hours game, being honest, I would prefer a better game even if it’s “only” a 100 hour game.

Blasphemy!

Giaddon · 2011-11-30T06:16:23.000Z

“Quantity has a quality all its own”

Joseph Stalin

TimJames · 2011-11-30T06:22:10.000Z

TurinTur:

I prefer quality over quantity.

But we already have plenty of RPGs like that. Quantity is fun every now and then.

Aeon221 · 2011-11-30T06:24:54.000Z

Arbit:

Did you read the two quotes that Blackadar linked? I honestly wonder whether Blackadar did either, because it doesn’t expose any sort of inconsistency in Chick’s thinking. It explains exactly why he loved Oblivion and didn’t like Skyrim:

So he came to think of Oblivion’s system as brittle and easily broken. Skyrim’s system is very easily broken… you might describe it as brittle.

And so was Morrowind. Daggerfall? Yarr. After two decades doing this BethSoft still can’t spot things like weapon stats that allow you to instagib enemies, enchants that allow you to cast two schools of magic for free, dragons that are less dangerous than mammoths or sabrecats, stealth that replaces the chameleon suit, crafting feedback loop from Morrowind (enchant/ alchemy bettering one another). And a ui that, while not the worst ever and better than Oblivion’s, certainly sucks a fat cock.

Great game, amazing game. But holy fuck these mistakes.

TimJames · 2011-11-30T06:44:58.000Z

Aeon221:

But holy fuck these mistakes.

My hope is we’re knocking them out one at a time. After Oblivion, I bet all they could hear was complaints about animation, leveling, and bland dungeons. Those are better now at least. Now the nerd mob needs to yell at them about the interface and game mechanics design to get ready for ES6 or FO4.

Giaddon · 2011-11-30T06:46:47.000Z

I’m not sure it’s accurate to call these mistakes. Bethesda are aware of them (some of these issues have been around for three games now), and have decided to leave them in. It may be a poor decision, but I have to believe it is a decision.

Telefrog · 2011-11-30T07:00:36.000Z

The poor PC UI isn’t a mistake. It’s a result of making the UI fit for consoles first and just porting it straight over to the PC.

Edit: Regarding the PC patch today, is it basically the same patch that got pushed out to the PS3? That thing is all kinds of messed up. Resistances broken, dragons flying backwards, etc…