Elemental all-purpose thread

[Dethedrus]

I wonder if they will be showing Elemental at PAX?

That would be rather unwise.

The ONE truly positive review of the game comes off as a glorified sales pitch, with the rest showing about an average of C-/D+. Not really PR worthy material.

[Dan_Theman]

From the thread mentioned above, Kryo (Stardock employee) posted this:

How could I have been in the beta without a valid registration?* You had to specifically pre-order, pre-pay and pre-register on Impulse before getting access to it. Obviously their rules and so called ‘gamer bill of rights’ means nothing.

Let’s look at the entire post:

No one is visitored (we only revoke posting privileges) by the moderation team based on a single factor alone.
1) You experienced the tampered-exe error, even after a clean reinstall.
2) You posted a debug.err file indicating no version data–that is, the game was not installed or updated via Impulse or a retail disc.
3) A query of the system indicated you have no registrations on the account you were posting under–for Elemental or any other products.

If you have another account with all your registrations on it and 1) and 2) were some sort of freak coincidence, please point it out and we will gladly restore your posting privileges with our apologies. Posting revocations are only being placed if the user also fails a registration check first, to ensure that no legitimate customers are accidentally visitored.

Assuming this is referring to you, I understand you are upset but they have pretty good reasoning if the above is true, and have even provided an easy recourse presuming you do have a legit copy.

My hope is you were using some alt account to post for some reason, in which case if you provide your main account info then I’m sure they’ll get it straightened out - “WITH APOLOGIES,” no less!!! Heck, you’ve got to do it just for that extra: no other preorder, limited edition, or special super secret handshake version comes with apologies BUT YOURS CAN by simply providing them with your account info showing you bought the game. Do you have any idea how many complainers in this thread would give so much more just for that very opportunity?!?

• • As an aside, let’s say you hypothetically knew a friend who preordered the game and downloaded the beta on your machine. He then went home to play on his own PC. There you’d be with the exact same beta version that he had, with nary a single penny sent the way of Stardock in exchange for the download. Nothing would have technically stopped you from playing it and particpating in the test (well, except from what little I saw of the beta you probably would have been both frustrated and bored out of your mind).

[Disconnected]

I’m going to try again to get a refund. Hopefully Stardock grants it to me. I plan on revisiting the game in 2011 when I can play it.

I don’t get this. Why do you bother returning the game if you plan on buying it again later?

[Surly_Bob]

Hey, Rune_74! I know you are reading this. When are you going to post on the SD forum your proof that I’m in on the anti-Stardock conspiracy? I’m sure your little mouse friend is eager for the backup, since I’ve been giving him such a brutal intellectual beatdown.

[mkozlows]

I don’t get this. Why do you bother returning the game if you plan on buying it again later?

It’ll be cheaper later, and you have the money in the meantime, and it gets across the “don’t release unfinished games” message in about the only way that matters.

[Dethedrus]

My hope is you were using some alt account to post for some reason, in which case if you provide your main account info then I’m sure they’ll get it straightened out - “WITH APOLOGIES,” no less!!! Heck, you’ve got to do it just for that extra: no other preorder, limited edition, or special super secret handshake version comes with apologies BUT YOURS CAN by simply providing them with your account info showing you bought the game. Do you have any idea how many complainers in this thread would give so much more just for that very opportunity?!?

Given a normal situation, I’d have to agree with you emphatically.

But with the gigantic screwjob that Elemental’s very early release has been to those who bought it (praise Odin I didn’t pre-order as I’d been SO close to do for the past 6 months) as well as the fact that some of us still require a freaking MOD to the core executable to even run the game… when you add that to how you’re guilty until they feel like you’re innocent, maybe, why would I EVER want to even bother with their forums? Or games for that matter?

This is not a case of schadenfreude, trust me. I have no vested interest in Stardock failing, but that’s just what they did.

[zenblack]

Well I’m about ready to request a refund as well. I will give it til the next patch, if it’s not good enough then I will clear up some space on my HD for a game I will actually play until they decide to finish making it.

[DaleKent]

I’ve been discussing via PM with Kryo (and I thank him for that). It appears my banning is not a result of one of the standard banning (post revocation really since I can read and PM) methods, and some individually placed post revocation only affective on the elementalgame.com domain (it appears I can still post on forums.stardock.com).

I await a result of what, why and who. :)

[rhinohelix]

I’ve been discussing via PM with Kryo (and I thank him for that). It appears my banning is not a result of one of the standard banning (post revocation really since I can read and PM) methods, and some individually placed post revocation only affective on the elementalgame.com domain (it appears I can still post on forums.stardock.com).

I await a result of what, why and who. :)

Glad you can use this thread to work out your issues on other forums, as well as drag drama around the dead horse.

I don’t really recall some of the old-time DSmart, Cleve, or, K0NY but this is without a doubt the worst big thread in my memory. I wish the dinosaurs had won.

[Surly_Bob]

I don’t really recall some of the old-time DSmart, Cleve, or, K0NY but this is without a doubt the worst big thread in my memory. I wish the dinosaurs had won.

Please tell us young nooblets more stories about the old skool!!

[DaleKent]

Glad you can use this thread to work out your issues on other forums, as well as drag drama around the dead horse.

I don’t really recall some of the old-time DSmart, Cleve, or, K0NY but this is without a doubt the worst big thread in my memory. I wish the dinosaurs had won.

Hey don’t blame us, you’ve got the choice to not read the thread. :)

[Dan_Lawrence]

[Dan_Lawrence]

[Strato]

I don’t know anything about Yu-Gi-Oh, but when I google search Elementalsaurus, I get this:

Close enough to a dinosaur pic?

By the way, this thread did have some interesting discussion, before turning into an all out bitchfest about how other forums are run. Boring!

[Sebmojo]

Please tell us young nooblets more stories about the old skool!!

I distinctly remember rhinohelix being something of a cockwallet when he was a young fella. So far you’re doing fine.

Oh, and

[Teiman]

Maybe SD sould whitelist the CRC of the user modded (user patched) version, or make thenselves his how “mod” (patch) for this particular problem. Whatever is faster.

Any decent patching tool need to do a small crc check, is not drm, imho. If you patch the wrong version, things break.

And windows programers love the registry database a loot, so relie a bit too much on the information there, and feel lost if theres not any registry key for his game. Calling such occurrence warez detection is a bit too much, since gamers can use things like restore points, suffer data lost and other unknowm unknows. Is not the job of a patcher to detect warez.

[MattKeil]

[Dan_Lawrence]

[Dan_Lawrence]

[Adree]