Elemental all-purpose thread

EvilIdler · 2010-09-03T16:14:24.000Z

Adam B:

I was amused just now when adding a new member to my ignore list (yay, P&R!) that over half of the 12 names on there have been since banned. Good times.

My ignore list fluctuates for the same reason. The people I put on ignore are really worth getting rid of :)

Anyway, back on topic: Brad’s post gives me hope.

P.S.: Wanna hire an asshole? I’m brutally honest, and can be a real dick to developers!

EvilIdler · 2010-09-03T16:15:43.000Z

Juan Rayo:

From what I’ve read, not really a favor to the costumers, that.

We’ll need more than hats to dress up well!

kerzain · 2010-09-03T17:23:49.000Z

Looks like Brad updated the journal with a new post:

Topics include:

Enabling multiplayer.

Improving the AI.

Game Mechanic Changes.

Magic System Changes.

General UI.

Performance, Compatibility, Memory

MattKeil · 2010-09-03T17:26:57.000Z

The Punch Line:

Seriously dude, Brad was in this very thread saying that he was kicking developers out of the office after the game went gold. He said they were addicted to working on the game! He obviously had no idea that “substantive improvements” were being “cranked on” for the benefit of the reviewers. If only the PR lady had told him, he wouldn’t have made a statement that in retrospect seemed like a big fat lie.

None of this makes any sense.

Calelari · 2010-09-03T18:02:10.000Z

kerzain · 2010-09-03T18:21:30.000Z

Gamespot finished their review-in-progress: 4.0

Sebmojo · 2010-09-03T18:36:11.000Z

The Punch Line:

Seriously dude, Brad was in this very thread saying that he was kicking developers out of the office after the game went gold. He said they were addicted to working on the game! He obviously had no idea that “substantive improvements” were being “cranked on” for the benefit of the reviewers. If only the PR lady had told him, he wouldn’t have made a statement that in retrospect seemed like a big fat lie.

Over time you may notice fewer and fewer people responding to you.

Whether you should count this as a victory or a loss is your choice.

The_Punch_Line · 2010-09-03T18:39:59.000Z

MattKeil:

None of this makes any sense.

The PR lady said (paraphrasing), "here is review code, but wait for the patch, we are “cranking” out “substantive improvements”. In other words, please oh please don’t review what we sent you.

Meanwhile, at about the same time, Brad posted in this thread about how the game had gone gold but the developers were still working on it, and he had to make them go home. In other words, the game is done done, developers don’t have to work overtime on anything, but they are anyway because they’re diligent (he used the word “addicted”).

Is that more clear? Unless you were referring to how the stories conflict, in which case I agree, it doesn’t make sense. However, it does make sense when you realize that saying “I truly wish I could ascribe Elemental’s launch to cynical greed or something. Cynical greed beats out pathetic incompetence any day.” is way too melodramatic.

I mean, “Cynical greed beats out pathetic incompetence any day.” That isn’t even right! Does anybody think Brad would come off better PR-wise if he admitted that he shipped now instead of later because it improves his cash flow?

Phydeaux · 2010-09-03T18:52:02.000Z

Sebmojo:

Over time you may notice fewer and fewer people responding to you.

Whether you should count this as a victory or a loss is your choice.

Please don’t feed the troll.

Rob_Merritt · 2010-09-03T19:39:09.000Z

Layoffs at Star Dock: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65443

kerzain · 2010-09-03T19:42:50.000Z

Fuck.

Cubit · 2010-09-03T19:43:34.000Z

whoa…

Mitya · 2010-09-03T19:46:25.000Z

So it appears he was serious about the ‘massive consequences’

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Lots of luck to anyone who was let go.

The_Punch_Line · 2010-09-03T19:49:38.000Z

Laying people off while he’s still on vacation…

Dan_Theman · 2010-09-03T19:51:06.000Z

Mitya:

So it appears he was serious about the ‘massive consequences’

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Lots of luck to anyone who was let go.

Absolutely best of luck to them. Hard to say how much was due to the state of the game as opposed to the expected round after a major release (reports from ex-employees right after they lose their jobs have a tendency to be somewhat unreliable), but I suppose time will tell.

kerzain · 2010-09-03T19:52:55.000Z

Punchline:

Laying people off while he’s still on vacation…

He made a post today (linked somewhere higher in the thread) stating that he was back. Whether he was in his office or not I can’t say.

Mitya · 2010-09-03T19:53:23.000Z

Actually I may be wrong, but isn’t it kind of common for companies to shed some personnel after a game release? Excess art crew who were brought on for the development, etc.

vyshka · 2010-09-03T19:53:37.000Z

Well apparently they don’t want to discuss the veracity of the report on the forums over there as my post asking if there was any truth to it was just nuked.

Edit: now it has reappeared.

The_Punch_Line · 2010-09-03T19:54:50.000Z

vyshka:

Well apparently they don’t want to discuss the veracity of the report on the forums over there as my post asking if there was any truth to it was just nuked.

You are a genius.

Dan_Theman · 2010-09-03T19:56:03.000Z

Mitya:

Actually I may be wrong, but isn’t it kind of common for companies to shed some personnel after a game release? Excess art crew who were brought on for the development, etc.

Yes, it is. That report is implying there was possibly more to it, but we don’t know.

vyshka:

Well apparently they don’t want to discuss the veracity of the report on the forums over there as my post asking if there was any truth to it was just nuked.

Yeah, I’m not sure many companies exist that enjoy discussing layoffs they just implemented in the last 24 hours, planned or otherwise.