Oh that’s tremendous.

OMG lol.

This was worth breaking my self imposed P&R exile.

Publicly fired reply guy really does seem to be fired.

The reliability and fit and finish are some reasons that Consumer Reports has not been a huge “Tesla” booster.

They once heralded the Model S when it debuted, as the future of cars and was very impressed.

Since then, the brand has continually struggled in their testing and rankings.

They still like the Model 3, but have started to recommend competitor’s offerings over the Tesla, due to the issues noted in the thread above. I mean, it makes sense. Tesla is a new car company, they don’t have tons of experience making cars yet, and you could expect issues like detailers find.

Many industry observers say that Tesla’s focus on speed and nimbleness has put some dents in the quality of its product. The Model S has repeatedly lost its recommended status from CR due to reliability woes, and initial quality has also suffered. Owners have complained to CR about display screens that freeze up, dust and defects in the exterior paint, trim pieces that come loose, and a suspension system that makes rattling and squeaking noises.

Fundamentally, today’s Model S is less enjoyable to drive than its predecessors. “Today, more often than not, they’re almost trying to get your hands off the wheel. It’s noisier, it rides harsher,” says CR’s Fisher. A yoke-style steering wheel is harder to hold, and the lack of a traditional turn signal stalk or shifter can be off-putting for many drivers.

The CR retrospective is an interesting read, and really speaks to the fumbles and issues that the company has had since their first CR reviewed vehicle (which they called a triumph). The company has focused on things besides quality and driving experience, and more on weird side things, like odd steering wheels, self driving tech, and other things that take time and energy away from producing consistently excellent vehicles.

It seems like the Twitter acquisition is a sped up version of this, where Elon comes in and meddles with an already fundamentally solid product, trying to shoehorn in a bunch of unneeded stuff.

IMO, Tesla is in for a rough ride. Once the real car manufacturers get moving on EV’s in the next 3-5 years, Tesla is going to be left in the dust on a whole bunch of metrics and relegated to a shrinking customer base of fanbois and performance seekers.

I don’t think Elon Musk can keep his first mover’s advantage while he is too busy faffing about with all his other shenanigans, many of which may further alienate investors over time.

I have a colleague who will have a Tesla by mid 2023, by my reckoning. Constantly talking about them, positioning it with hs wife, salivating over it since driving a Model S a couple of years back. He’s bought into Jordan Peterson’s schtick, so Musk is attractive to him. Kind of guy who is ‘totally not an Apple fanboi’, but NEVER ceases to buy the new gen top of the range iPhone EVERY year while never missing an opportunity to throw shade at Android.

Yeah, I agree with this. Tesla has done a great job getting production numbers up and being the best electric car that you can actually buy in volume. But unless you’re really into the spartan esthetic, you’re going to have a lot more options at the same or even lower price points in the next 12-24 months.

Agree, and especially with the advent of a bunch of plug-in hybrids with decent battery driving range.

That is, of course, if they don’t work very hard to reverse the trends they have been showing, and increase the quality control measures, and focus more on being the sporty, fun, and technologically advanced one. And lean on their massively successful and useful charging network.

It is fairly clear they have decided to stray from the path of most typical carmakers.

CR really likes the Kia EV’s as well as the Ford MachE.

I can’t stand Musk, but I hope Tesla is able to improve their build quality and remains a competitive force in the EV industry. I really appreciate that they were able to make EVs cool and I do credit them at least in part for the increased demand for the vehicles and for lighting a fire under the other manufacturers.

Well, their sales / delivery model makes it easy for them to skimp on quality. You can’t see the car you’re getting when you buy it, and you can’t reject it when you do see it without resetting the delivery schedule, which many buyers don’t want to do. They have few direct, immediate incentives to improve.

I admire the balls on these twitter programmers, but they fucked up. All the big tech companies are doing layoffs right now. Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Meta… where are they going to go find work? Maybe they can pin their sassy tweets to Elon on their tip jar at Starbucks, or on their Walmart vest.

Like, instead of trying to fix the issues and get clout with their (admittedly unstable) boss, they decided to get Internet Points.

Too early to tell if the trend is heading in the wrong direction, but as of right now unemployment is low and there’s still demand. Maybe that’s changed and it’s not reflected in the numbers yet, but if there are startups and other smaller competitors looking at Twitter’s (and others) fumbles as an opportunity I’m sure they would be thrilled to have them.

It’s possible that the fed has pushed things too far and those startups all go belly up as VC dries up. Time will tell I guess.

Depends a lot on what kind of stock options they might have just been paid out on.

I think the layoffs at Amazon and Facebook are largely confined to non- engineering staff. My company is finding it still incredibly difficult to hire good software engineers. Not surprised that ex-Twitter have good prospects or that top engineers would be happy to leave.

Like I said, Walmart is booming. Stock’s up 5% today on killer earnings. Holidays approaching. Associates urgently needed. I’m sure that $200k Twitter salary was nice but Walmart now offers $12/hr to start!

Hah! Well, Walmart is going to need developers and devops to run the website, online shopping, and whatever internal software tools they use. Amazon experience on the resume would be pretty attractive, I would think! :)

Hopefully there’s enough demand to absorb the layoffs and hire these Twitter devs falling on their own swords.

Also I’d like to add that we put out a rec for a developer in October and got 265 responses in one day. We’d normally get like 10 in a week and 9 of them would be crap.

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We’ve slowed down hires, but teams are still hiring here at Red Hat.