Sharpe
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I am unable to understand what that graph is attempting to convey. Is it just an income graph compared side by side with an education graph? I don’t understand.
It would be interesting to see those numbers adjusted for age though. Most high-income Republicans, other than techbro types like Musk maybe, seem to be old-school economic Republicans who simply have not gotten the memo (or don’t care) about the current GOP’s descent into fascist theocratic dementia. They still think “Republican” is the only way to get what they really care about, which is low to no taxes and zero regulation.
But in any event, the idea that rich people like the party that slavishly worships wealth isn’t that surprising.
DoubleG
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Yeah, it’s two separate graphs superimposed on each other with a different X axis. The author was trying to make a point about the common narrative which lumps “low income, low-education” voters together as a block when it’s more complicated than that.
This appears to be the source: Live exit polls 2022: Election Day exit polls for Democrats vs Republicans
If I were this graph maker, I would have picked green and orange for my colors (because it’s natural for a political audience to read red as republican and blue as democrat). If you ignore the blue and just look at the red parts of the graph there’s a positive correlation between education level and voting for democrats. Similarly, there’s a negative correlation between income level and voting for democrats. This really would have been just as good as two independent graphs, as the X axis is double used for two completely unrelated categories (we’re assuming the two categorical variables are independent - editor’s note: they aren’t, and the marginal distributions might actually be pretty interesting.)
So according to that graph, people with no college experience at all are 26% less likely to vote for Democrats than Republicans?
DoubleG
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The Democrat margin is 26 lower for the voters that never attended college. Here’s the less busy original without income:
“I love the poorly educated” - Donald Trump, February 24 2016
I have a long (for me, 2 hrs drive, may be trivial for others lol) commute and so I have started listening to podcasts.
BBC sounds has some good ones.
And yesterday I listened to the first Wreath Lectures, which is an annual series of 4 lectures on a chosen topic.
This year the topic is F.D. Roosevelt’s 4 freedoms.
And yesterday was Freedom Of Speech.
Anyone remotely interested in this topic should listen to the lecture and the ensuing conversation.
For easier Googling, I believe BBB is referring to the Reith Lectures.
No, reality is always more complex.
There’s rarely a single reason why someone becomes radicalized (culture also plays a part) but arguably if you don’t know anything about history, economy or politics, you are easier to mislead, and if you’re destitute and miserable, you are more likely to follow someone who promises that they’re gonna change everything overnight, or just provide you an outlet for your anger.
We started by talking about anti-semitism. Even far in the past, a number of progroms would be preceded by disasters like failed harvests, mass death or economic decline. Anti-semitism is still to blame, but in those cases grief, hunger and discontent served to trigger the move to violence.
We can try to cover people’s eyes and ears, but that’s not going to make them less ideal candidates for radicalization. That requires a lot more effort and understanding.
Yeah, but it keeps it from happening as often and at scale. I prefer candidates have their radicalization go unrealized, but that’s just me. Make the Nazis work for it so they have to go door to door, and risk real world consequences like getting punched in the face. A lot of them will be too lazy and cowardly if they can’t safely and easily recruit online.
It will still happen at scale my dude, you’re not gonna stop people recruiting online, but I agree that it has a positive effect, specifically in terms of limiting the most overt recruitment and coordination.
One thing you should maybe look at is how Germany has limited freedom of speech by banning the display of nazi symbols and the distribution of nazi propaganda.
It has done nothing to stop them having one of the largest neo nazi populations in Europe, and a very rabid and violent bunch at that.
They just develop ways to communicate that fall within the law - or have fun subverting it - in the same way people make far right groups on Facebook to incite and mislead people using polite language, which isn’t against policy.
You didn’t say it was by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie!
That’s a wonderful lecture, thanks for sharing it. I think she makes a lot of good points.
Here’s the link:
In the back of my mind I was wondering what wreaths had to do with them.
Because I didn’t have time to google her name in order to write it properly.
And because Id never heard of her before. She has a beautiful, mellifluous voice.
You’re welcome. I think this evening I’ll listen to thr Archbishop of Cantebury.
As do I, and relevant to the discussion on deplatforming disagreaable people.
Houngan
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The cracks are starting to show:
My notifications have been broken for some time. Not in a completely dysfunctional way, just always wrong or blank.
Yep. Noticed the same thing for art least a week now. Either a lot fewer people are liking my posts/replies or something is broken.
ShivaX
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Basically half of all posts break if I click on them.
Some work. Some don’t. The ones that don’t consistently don’t.
Edit: Jester retweeted me and apparently I’m not alone. Also my notifications are unusable.
Edit2: I’m somehow getting it on the post I made, while also seeing replies. The slow collapse begins I guess.
ShivaX
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I’m sure they’ll fix it. Maybe Elon can ask someone to submit some code or something.
jsnell
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Huh. Individual tweets have been broken half the time for a couple of weeks, but it’s not consistent for me. Reloading a few times usually gives a success.
In other news:
Twitter soon going to be like an episode Severance.
