Surely it has nothing to do with their loudmouth owner turning off the advertisers. It has to be those pesky activists. Who somehow organized a protest campaign in… a week.

Elon Musk has gone off the rails.

I mean…dude bought a site and said he’d be making changes to how they’d look at content moderation. And then has just floated out one trial balloon after another. And he’s wondering why major advertisers are going “Let’s wait and see…”

Someone buy Elon a mirror.

He sounds like a literate version of Donald Trump. Drop the English by a few grade levels and it reads like one of his “everyone is picking on me and none of this is my fault” tweets

“Nobody should be allowed to say bad things about me and my (checks notes) free speech platform.”

You see how he shut off AoC’s DMs? That’s petty af. Makes me wonder, if you’re a Tesla owner and you upset Elon on Twitter, will he remotely deactivate your car?

Ah, well as someone who is old enough to remember, let me summarize. (puts on bifocals and cardigan)

Yes, a vast divide has opened up in American politics. There is a common narrative loudly asserted by certain people that this polarization is due to “Both Sides” becoming vastly more partisan - right-wingers becoming more right-wing matched by an equal and opposite reaction of left-wingers become more left-wing.

This narrative is wrong. What actually happened is that the left became a teeny bit more left- wing (or more accurately reverted a teeny bit towards their historic positions on economic issues, after moving to the right under Bill Clinton) and the right became vastly, vastly more right wing.

This asymmetry was apparent even back in 2012 - academics did studies on it back in 2012. Even back then the gap was mostly to due the Republicans (starting with Gingrich) becoming radicalized.

Since Trump, the right has moved even faster rightward, that making that asymmetric gap into a vast canyon. Concepts that were once relegated to the fringes and were never endorsed by the political mainstream have suddenly become major tentpoles of the Republican party.

Back in the Before Times, political discourse was dominated by bow-tied pundits in the editorial pages of newspapers. It was mostly about what are today seen as minor issues: whether taxes should be slightly lower or higher, whether immigration should be slightly lower or higher (but should definitely still happen, both parties agreed), whether a civil rights law should or shouldn’t be tweaked in the following way, and so on.

Since the ascendancy of the Trumpists, political discourse is increasingly dominated by radical right-wing extremists amplifying their signal via social media, sending out messages like: “elections are illegitimate and must be overthrown,” “science is a lie and health policy should be determined by randos on Facebook and not doctors,” “white nationalism is a legitimate philosophy and anyone who criticizes it is the real racist, actually.” Etc, etc,

Compared to such large and alarming ideas, all pundits who nowadays discuss whether taxes should be slightly higher or lower might seem “the same,” when 30 years ago people would have classified those same pundits as differing wildly in their views. But that’s not because those pundits have moved at all: it’s because the Republicans have rushed far to the right and become a party of radical extremism.

It’s possibly what you’re doing is comparing the editorial pages of other outlets to the non-editorial news content of the WSJ. The news content of the WSJ has always been solid; the editorial content of the WSJ has always skewed to the right (and did so before Trump, and before Murdoch acquired them in 2007.) Of course, since Trump, the WSJ by staying the same now appears “more reasonable” than the average right-wing newspaper - but again that’s because the right has moved so far to the right.

Absolutely not, that’s ludicrous. He’ll have one of his goons turn it off for him.

Seriously. What an ass.

Bradley Whitford stays badass.

One of the few memorable things Nate Silver has said (that I agree with, as opposed to memorable stuff he says that makes me wonder WTF is up with him?) is that he thinks that editorial content and news content in newspapers should be separate entities so people don’t confuse the two. Let NYT publish news, let them put editorial content somewhere else. The editorial section gets a free ride on the reputation of the news department.

And the vast majority of the public doesn’t understand the difference between a newspaper story and a newspaper editorial.

Exactly! It’s pretty weird to lump it all together - people expect the same level of stringency and fact checking.

Of course, the same then extends to TV as well, where Fox news isn’t nearly as bad as Fox opinion, but it’s almost impossible to tell which is which.

That’s literally the slight of hand that Fox News uses to push the most right wing views but remaining “impartial” - generally the hyper partisan views are made by “guests”. That most guests are hyper partisan is just, you know, the Truth About Liberals (that they don’t want you to know) asserting itself into reality indirectly.

Yes, I had that issue with my father. His age group seems particularly vulnerable to it? Where they had a lifetime of news being reputable sources of information, so anything he saw on Fox News he would tell me he “heard it on the news” when really what he meant was “Sean Hannity had a wacky guest say something egregious”. But it’s the news so it must be true.

I have an older colleague (who I genuinely like a lot, politics aside) who is somewhat similar. His idea is that he can look at CNN or the NYTimes and compare it to Fox News or other rightwing hellholes and “know” that the truth is somewhere in the middle. In his mind, CNN is left leaning and Fox News is right leaning, so yeah, it must be somewhere in the middle. He doesn’t seem to realize that he’s missing the variable for HOW far to the left or right each outlet is. And when comparing actual news and fact with crazy conspiracy theories, the truth is not in fact in the middle of that. Sigh.

Totally besides the point, but has a 9 month old and is 8 months pregnant? Damn! Isn’t that called having Irish twins?

Hah! I’m around so many Mormons that didn’t even register.

Kill all the Jews or kill none of the Jews? Why can’t we compromise? The left is so inflexible!

Best line spotted on the Internet about Elon’s reign thus far: “Someone get a lettuce.”

Though alas there’s no mechanism to force Elon out if he is bound and determined to lose money: with his deep pockets, he can always Charles Foster Kane it for a while.

@JoshL is making me laugh way too hard this morning…