Epic Games Store - 88% split goes to devs


#97

That’s exactly my point. I’m responding to the point that people won’t “switch” to the Epic Store.

They already have, they just don’t know it. And when the first non-Epic game that’s on there is made popular by an influencer, people will buy it no problem. They won’t mind that it’s not Steam. Nowadays, the young don’t care about that. People our age, who are all fussy, do. But we’re being left behind.


#98

Sure, for exclusive games. I mean they already have Fortnite. But I’m talking about getting publishers to sell their games there as well. If customers can get it on Steam/Origin/Whatever already, I need a reason to buy it there instead. Otherwise I’ll just buy it on Steam where I have all my other games.


#99

I just don’t want more services as I like Steam as a repository. I tolerate uplay barely as an add-on to steam but don’t like it and I’ve never looked at it as a platform. I also tolerate Battle.net but don’t have it starting automatically. I uninstalled Fortnite and emailed them personally to delete my account.

I’m resistant to another platform just on the convenience aspect. I don’t have a single game on Origin and refuse to install it.

But I also suppose we have enough RAM these days and SSDs to reduce startup time that it doesn’t matter so much, so maybe I should just let it go.


#100

You can add non-Steam games to your Steam library. Likely will be able to do that with games you buy on the Epic store.


#101

Exclusive games are definitely desirable. If they get those, then the rest will follow, and they will have some games that aren’t exclusive, but are still sold there, occasionally dropping in some cash. They’ll also still make licensing revenue.

What will also help, again, is if they really pump that content creator\influencer program (in association with devs). The conversion when a streamer posts a “buy” link is actually surprisingly high. If the buy link is associated with the Epic Store, and a gamer doesn’t give a shit that it’s not Steam (which many of the younger ones will not), then they’ll get those purchases.


#102

I know what store I forgot up above… Battle.net.

This is just another place to buy games. Underpants not knotted.


#103

This depends on the developer and the game. I do not and will not create a new account for every indie developer out there just to ask a couple of basic questions from the community. Steam forums are easy to participate in. Don’t Starve, Magicka, Thea… these games typically don’t have issues with their Steam communities, not really. I’m not going to risk much on an indie game if I can’t see what’s going on with the game based on community interaction. I’m just… not.

No reviews is not good either. Reviews and forums are often how I judge a game’s status today, especially with EA so prevalent.


#104

Same.

This is all good for developers, is it good for me, the consumer? They need to answer that question to beat steam. Otherwise they will be like Origin, with people forced to use it for exclusive titles.

Heck if the user experience is bad enough, I would think even charging 55$ instead of 60$ for a AAA release wouldn’t win me over. Steam just works, and it works well.


#105

They only need one exclusive to get you to register for their store and hand over your credit card number. Fortnite did that for many people.

Once you pass that barrier, a lot of the friction is gone. Sure you’d prefer Steam, but if this other store beats it on price or has a loyalty program, why not buy there?

And yes, of course, all that presupposes that the user experience is comparable. If it’s painful to use it’s DOA.


#106

Yeah, and I uninstalled it as soon as I decided to not play Fortnite. EA has my info too, I don’t use their store for much of anything. Same for Uplay. I don’t think you’re fully understanding the difference.


#107

If they really go the way of exclusives to force people to join, then they will be the same assholes that EA/Actard are. Not really creating competition, but creating another monopoly instead.

As far as new stores are concerned, didn’t Twitch and Discord start selling games too recently?

Does anyone even remember, let alone use them?


#108

That barrier is gone, assuming you bought anything on Fortnite. There’s nothing to miss.

They still need to get you to purchase from them over Steam, via discounts or loyalty programs, or whatever. Just that initial barrier to entry is gone.


#109

Why do you think this matters? I’ve purchased stuff once from Origin like maybe 5-6 years ago… once, because they didn’t have the game somewhere else or it was cheap… that’s it. This a Steam competitor did not make. My participation in those stores is a forced experience, I do not shop those stores in anyway meaningful way like I do steam. Heck if I buy from other stores, it’s usually with the expectation I will get a Steam key.


#110

Hell yeah I do, because they both gave me free games! I’ll sign up for any service that wants to give me free stuff.


#111

Don’t forget Razer. They send me e-mails all the time… I don’t see any reason to play in their store either.


#112

Which is the thing they notably haven’t been talking about. They’ve just gone full Ballmer.


#113

You never go full Ballmer.


#114

Because it obviously does, in every marketplace, globally. Getting people to sign up and hand over their credit card in the first place is a huge hurdle.


#115

Hah, that I can emphasize with. I will also create Epic account (maybe I already have it, I did download UT once) for their free games.

But as far as me actually buying games there instead of Steam?

No way - unless they force me by making it exclusive to their store. Which I loathe, but if they funded, say, Vampire Bloodlines 2, I would grudginly get over the loathing, just like I did with Forza Horizon 3 on Windows Store.


#116

But having an account, giving them a credit card, does not make players want to use their store. This is not an unknown company. It’s not like I or probably most people have concerns about having an account with them or giving them our credit cards. They’ve been around forever. They’re not an unknown entity with grey market keys.