2753

I slammed the buy button on Steam as soon as I saw the news. Not as a way of supporting Steam per se, but it’s where I want to buy and manage my library of games.

2754

I stopped buying full priced games on steam right after they started price matching the local brick and mortar stores. I refuse to pay an additional 10 dollars per game. Luckily Green Man Gaming doesn’t and has regular 10-20% off on most games.

2755

I dunno. You tell me what point you’re trying to get to with DayZ. I gather that you think its wasted potential and poor release somehow predicts the future for Fortnite, but you still really haven’t connected the dots.

2756

So about that not pulling games that are already on sale on Steam…

2757

It’s better to watch their actions because so far their talking points have been bullshit, made up numbers, or moments where they ‘misspoke’ as today has proven quite handily.

2758

Yeah, Epic is pretty scummy, as I’m sure the PUBG folks can testify to. Their game engine is fantastic and I’ve enjoyed a lot of their games (including PVE Fortnite), but I don’t trust them. The exclusive thing, while I understand the business side of the argument, has further pushed me away from their store.

I don’t know, my Steam library is pretty vast and amounts to thousands of dollars. While no one can know what happens to Steam down the road, they’ve earned my trust over the 12 or so years I’ve been using the service. They’ve had dominant market position for over a decade but they’ve never abused it from a customer POV. Prices for games have never been better and there’s a bunch of stuff like Workshop and Steamworks (for multiplayer) that’s made gaming so much more convenient for me. The thought of Epic being in a dominant position like that makes me a little nervous.

2759

Sounds like Ubisoft was really happy with how Division 2 went to me.

In the contest between who is scuzzier, I’d say it’s PUBG Corp every time.

2760

Well I am not the one that made Epic state for public record they wouldn’t do something and then watched them go do that same thing in like a week. Words matter.

2761

You’re assuming Epic is responsible for this. I am positing that Ubisoft may have unilaterally decided to pull the game from Steam on their own.

2762

It’s their store front. They’re not some fragile filly here just the victim at the whims of their developers. They don’t get to pretend they don’t know about Fig, or come out and say they wouldn’t do it this way again and then feign oh gosh it’s all the developers decisions and it’s not at all like we’re pushing exclusivity and tell anyone who doesn’t like it to fuck off. They made the bed their lying in.They don’t get to point at others anymore and say not me.

Everything coming out that camp seems to be a lie; hell they even had to pull back the numbers they released.

2763

Dayz -> DayzBR -> PUBG. I mentioned it because it has a tangible connection to what followed. Its poor release has nothing to do with the future predictions, it’s just there to show how newer games completely encompassed it. I don’t want to say the games that followed were necessarily better because I honestly don’t get either mp survival or BR, but it happened.

If DayZ trips you up so much you can argue the PUBG case instead. It went from ~3m players to what, 1m?

2764

Epic cares about Valve!

2765

If you can predict what makes one of several similar shooters the king of the hill for any month, you should find a way to make a lot of money out of that, because I can’t make head or tails of it.

I don’t think he could possibly be more slimy if he tried.

2766

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So Tim’s defense is… the deal was signed, so they knew it was a lie when he said it. . This group wouldn’t know how to be honest about anything if it hit them in the face and said this is how you convey this message honestly.

2767

“This deal was signed before he said that, also it’s bullshit anyway.”

2768

Well, what a relief it is that PUBG isn’t corralling exclusives for their own store, then. Phew!

2769

The Korean company is scuzzier ‘every time’?
Smells like… kg … racism

2770

Bravo sir.

2771

No, the defense is this happened in the past, therefore statements about the future can’t be applied to this situation retroactively. I don’t know why that is so hard to believe.

Did I say anything about Korea? Did I in anyway insinuate the problem was that they are Korean, or repeatedly make disparaging comments about Korean Money? I can wait.

2772

Oh I am sure they’ll happily play just as dumb as you’re letting them be. You don’t make a statement like that, knowing there is at least one more coming and not mention it. I know you want to give them any excuse you can come up with, but this is not some starter company coming to the the rodeo for the first time. They said that knowing there was one more coming. If you don’t see a problem with that, well then by all means, just keep giving them an unending amount of vouchers to downplay their dishonesty.