3034

Steam being replaced by Epic wouldn’t fix anything. It just replaces one problem with another, except I guess the devs wouldn’t care as much because they get a little more money. It’s an oxymoron to try and replace one behemoth with another and then say there, fixed PC gaming.

3035

That’s assuming I’m ok with storing all my games on a hard drive, them not getting updates anymore, etc. I don’t buy that particular argument. I do like no drm though.

3036

Is there really a fear of replacement? Is the PC market so fragile that we can only have one large market for games?

I mean, I understand if people where hoping to not only dethrone Steam, but also remove them from the picture completely, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting that would happen without some incredible stupid mistakes on Steam’s part.

People just want more options.

Now, GoG going under would suck, but on the other hand, they are all DRM free, so you can stick them on a hard drive and be safe knowing that they’ll probably last longer then any game you ever owned on a floppy disk or CD (how many DRM manuals have we all lost?).

It’s sad, but it’s what I had to do with my Impulse games. Most of them are old enough that no new updates would available, although I can usually still get patches from web without too much trouble.

Actually, I am surprised by how many games I just never play.

3037

Yes, that is one of their strength’s and why their absence would be such a horrible loss for our hobby.

I have a very large number of games in my GOG library and that would take considerable effort and hard drive space to properly archive them all, but perhaps that is something I need to seriously consider near future.

I would also really miss the other services that GOG provides. They patch and update a lot of older games and make them available in a legitimate affordable manner (no need for pirating or extensive user patching) such as the recent Diablo and Warcrafts.

3038

Plus GOG is the vision of PC gaming I want to triumph, even if they lag behind Steam in features. The fact that I technically keep access to my games is a minor point for me. I’m willing to pay more for them to get my money rather than buying via another service.

3039

Perfectly said, and it encapsulates my feelings on the subject. It might not be totally rational to have this fear, but some of us have already been burned by closing storefronts (Impulse), and for me as a consumer I see NO BENEFIT to the risk (however small) that EGS is introducing in their attack on Steam. A worse platform from a worse company undercutting the place where all my games live, risking my thousands of invested dollars and thousands of invested hours.

3040

The issue isn’t that folks want a monopoly. The issue is people don’t want Epic because of how they’re doing things, and their reputation in general.

GOG, Discord- they at least provide something I’d want.

Imagine if Epic demands exclusivity on all UE games for the PC versions.

3041

I wish GOG provided something I want. I went to launch GOG’s Galaxy application, because it’s actually not terrible but… I never installed on my new computer. That is how far GOG is from my mind at any given time, mostly because of things like today, when I go to their store front and the game that is more center eye level is Diablo, as in Diablo 1. I am just not that into old games, most of the time.

If they could get the newer games, I probably wouldn’t mind that but I guess the devs avoid them.

3042

GoG would be great if the old time games didn’t feel like rip offs. Seriously, do they have to charge 10 or more dollars for those old 90s games?

3043

That’s the publishers setting the prices. They definitely feel like they can charge higher prices on GOG, as a DRM-free tax or something. Sales make the prices decent.

3044

I just want to interrupt this conversation for a second to inject that Diablo is wonderful. I’m playing through it now, and $10 is a really great price for this game, as it feels more like a modern triple A game even today, as opposed to something that’s too old to enjoy. The audio carries most of that load, and it makes it feel ultra slick and special.

Highly recommended!

3045

There are newer Indie games, but you’re right that AAA titles are always the older ones. AAA publishers refuse to release new titles without DRM. e.g. only Far Cry 1 and 2 are available, only Dragon Age 1, only the first Dead Space, first X-com, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, etc. I find that good games are good long-term though, and the GOG releases tend to not have some of the issues that plague some older Steam releases.

3046

Whelp I at least of GOG Galaxy installed now. I have easy access to my library of 4 games on there, all old. If they expanded to include newer and large games, and the devs got a bigger cut, and they were DRM free and exclusives were temporary, I could see using them more. They cared about PC gaming and had a general non-adversarial position with customers when they weren’t overstuffed with cash, and it wasn’t a given PC gaming would just bring in more and more money.

3047

It’s not like they rot. I appreciate the work that’s done to make sure the old games work well on new machines. Even if it’s just working out the dosbox options and bundling it in.

3048

I don’t know. Some of those games have not aged well and really, for me, it’s just nostalgia, not actual value.

But hey, if I think the games are too expansive, I just don’t buy them. It’s pretty simple.

3049

And now GOG have made dosbox games have cloud saves, which is quite an accomplishment. They actually contributed to dosbox (an open source project) to add the needed feature, much like Steam and wine/dxvk.

3050

Do they have the credits in Diablo still? Is the “Ring of One Thousand” still a part of the credits?

3051

Sorry, I’m not familiar. I can look when I get home tonight. What should I look for? Some kind of way to view credits in the main menu?

3052

Yea, just let the credits scroll.

I was on the original beta test and my name is immortalized in the credits ^^. I hit refresh for like 4 hours at night, whenever that was, 1996 i think.

3053

Honestly it still kinda surprises me that publishers still think DRM is worth it.
From time to time a bigger new game launches on GOG (apart from Witcher trilogy there was Dying Light and Kingdom Come, which launched there few weeks after Steam) and it does not hurt sales at all. The games are already downloadable on torrents anyway. So why not release on GOG too? It is just bizzare.