Epic Games Store - 88% split goes to devs

[KevinC]

Which is why this thread is 3100 posts long. Every couple weeks someone has to stroll through to state that no one has any real objections which is followed by a dozen posts detailing for the umpteenth time what their individual problems/concerns are. This is then followed by a bunch of people reiterating for the umpteenth time that they don’t personally care about those things. They then wait for two weeks and make the proclamation that no one has any real objections to the EGS…

[draxen]

Which is why this thread is 3100 posts long. Every couple weeks someone has to stroll through to state that no one has any real objections

I have no objections to the Epic Game Store :)
flees your wrath

[KevinC]

Haha, no wrath from me! If someone doesn’t have any objections to the store, that’s great! Go shop there, the devs will get a bigger cut.

What irritates me is people telling people who do have concerns – and who have articulated them multiple times in the thread – that they don’t actually have concerns.

For me, I use a lot of Steam features. That means that buying a game on a platform where I won’t have access to those features is inherently less appealing to me. And as a consumer, for me personally I don’t like having my choice of preferred storefront taken from me by bribing the developer to sign an exclusive contract. Not righteous fury levels or anything, just annoyance that now this game that I’ve been wanting I either have to forego the features and convenience of having it on Steam or wait another year to play the game. It’s hardly the end of the world, but it has definitely soured me on Epic.

I already had their client installed because I had been playing Paragon and Fortnite’s PVE mode so I was initially pretty excited about competition for Steam, because I think it is generally a good thing and that Valve could use someone lighting a fire underneath them. I just wish Epic waited until their storefront could actually compete on features, but they wanted to cash in on those Fortnite eyeballs. I get the business logic, but as a consumer and not a stakeholder, I don’t really care about that.

[Gendal]

Those objections are silly. The Epic store is new, of course it doesn’t have all the Steam features yet, but they’ll come.

You have a lot, and I mean a lot, more confidence than me. Cloud saves, Steam Input, streaming, and overlay are the big ones. I can see saves, stream and the overlay but input?

I have become pretty dependent on steam input and hate the idea of playing a game without. Grim Dawn for example is pretty great on a controller in part because of how flexible and powerful Steam Input is.

[stusser]

I think that’s fair. I’ll make the OP into a wiki and people can edit in all the issues, with a neutral voice please.

[KevinC]

Grim Dawn for example is pretty great on a controller in part because of how flexible and powerful Steam Input is

Yep, this is another feature I used the other day. While in BPM playing from my couch.

[Granath]

Haha, no wrath from me! If someone doesn’t have any objections to the store, that’s great! Go shop there, the devs will get a bigger cut.

What irritates me is people telling people who do have concerns – and who have articulated them multiple times in the thread – that they don’t actually have concerns.

For me, I use a lot of Steam features. That means that buying a game on a platform where I won’t have access to those features is inherently less appealing to me. And as a consumer, for me personally I don’t like having my choice of preferred storefront taken from me by bribing the developer to sign an exclusive contract. Not righteous fury levels or anything, just annoyance that now this game that I’ve been wanting I either have to forego the features and convenience of having it on Steam or wait another year to play the game. It’s hardly the end of the world, but it has definitely soured me on Epic.

I already had their client installed because I had been playing Paragon and Fortnite’s PVE mode so I was initially pretty excited about competition for Steam, because I think it is generally a good thing and that Valve could use someone lighting a fire underneath them. I just wish Epic waited until their storefront could actually compete on features, but they wanted to cash in on those Fortnite eyeballs. I get the business logic, but as a consumer and not a stakeholder, I don’t really care about that.

Well said. I agree 100%.

[stusser]

The OP is now a wiki, feel free to edit it with neutrally voiced issues. Please include links to substantiating info when possible.

[legowarrior]

Is there a link?

[stusser]

It’s just the first post in this thread. Anybody can edit it now.

I put in everything I was aware of, as several people said I was missing their concerns I look forward to seeing them up there. Neutral voice please.

[AntediluvianArk]

Randy Pitchford (DuvalMagic)

This is just insulting. Take Two has the ‘guts’ to receive a fat exclusivity payment.

Are they also providing consumers with a sense of pride and accomplishment?

[Paul_cze]

Randy sure loves the phrase “forcing function”. But yeah, it’s hilarious.

[Perky_Goth]

I’m waiting for the inevitable company that will take the money and drop support for a mediocre game right after launch.

[lordkosc]

I hope they have the guts to show BL3 sales multiples on EPIC, vs BL2 on Steam.

[stusser]

If Epic didn’t guarantee revenue for Borderlands 3, this move could definitely be seen as risky. Yes they get a much bigger cut, but people really don’t like the Epic store. I think most of those reasons are basically bullshit personally, but people think what they think.

[Alstein]

The thing is, Epic may be a good deal for publishers, but they haven’t done anything to make it a good deal for consumers yet.

If they folks, they need to lower prices.

[lordkosc]

US customers can get Metro Exodus $10 cheaper. So… Thats a thing. ONE thing.

[LockerK]

See? Public service :)

My favorite parts of that tweetstorm were Randy promising that Epic was going to beat Steam on features when Tim Sweeney’s explicitly stated they’re going for a smaller feature set, and complaining that Valve tricked developers and locked them in with Steamworks - conveniently forgetting that gamers were damn near begging for BL2 to be Steamworks because of how shitty the multiplayer was in the first game. Hell, they even had to convert BL1 because Gamespy shut down and you couldn’t play it online anymore.

[KevinC]

Yeah. SteamWorks came out in a time where other options were GFWL and Gamespy for your multiplayer backend. No thanks.

[legowarrior]

That’s all I really care about.

As long as everything is secure, that is.