I get that people have problems with it, but I don’t get how people are impacted by these problems.
If you don’t like Epic, isn’t it possible to just avoid it?
Edited to make it less harsh and inane.
KevinC
3297
Well, sort of, except that means I can’t buy the game for another year which is what has people wailing and gnashing teeth.
And before anyone jumps to it: as I’ve said a dozen times in this thread, no that’s not that end of the world. It’s an annoyance in the hobby I enjoy, though, so I gripe about it sometimes on the forum that discusses my hobby.
Oghier
3298
The animating force behind this entire thread is exclusives. You didn’t miss that, surely?
I did. I don’t understand the term exclusives in this context.
What does it mean?
Oghier
3300
It means that Epic has paid a bunch of devs to pull their games off Steam, or to not make them available on Steam. That’s their primary strategy for attracting revenue. Customers will have noplace else to go for in-demand games.
Literally nobody would complain if these games were also on Epic. It’s that they’re only on Epic.
Okay, so the game isn’t on steam. There are hundreds of games that aren’t on steam but that doesn’t make the exclusive in the same sense that games only available on PlayStation are exclusive. It just means a but more effort.
KevinC
3302
Now we say “So what? It’s literally just an app install. No big deal”.
And then we say “Yeah, but I want the game on Steam because of reasons x, y, and z”
And then we say “Yeah well I don’t use those features so I don’t care” or “You just hate Epic because you hate Fortnite/Chinese people/you’re Gabe’s nephew, you don’t have any rational reason for being irritated about this”
And he is 100% correct in that statement. Even if Epic had exactly the same features as steam right now, or even came out of the gate with slightly better features mostly people will buy their game on Steam because they already have a bunch of games on steam so why fragment my game library? The only reason I would buy a game on Epic is because a) it’s cheaper, b) it’s the only place to get it.
And I say “X, Y and Z” aren’t exactly important. What’s important is that Developers get paid more and that we see competition in the market. Plus, I. Sure X, Y and Z will make it to Epic in the near future.
Besides, it’s not like its a forever Exclusive. Just wait a year. Delayed gratification is always better.
Yeah, that where I stand. If you want my money, you better make sure it isn’t on steam.
stusser
3306
Totally agree. At the same price, I would buy a game with DRM on Steam over a clean game elsewhere just for the convenience factor. But if it’s cheaper on Epic, sure, I’ll buy it there.
KevinC
3307
Which is where we conclude with my post above where I said that different things matter to different people, and just because things aren’t important to you doesn’t mean they’re not important to me. Saying features “aren’t exactly important” is completely subjective. It’s important to those people, and those are the reasons they are irritated. I don’t think anyone in this thread is saying that EVERYONE should care about those things or that everyone should boycott Epic. They just expressed their own personal dislike for the situation.
X, Y, and Z features might make it to the Epic store in the future. Once they do, I’ll be far more likely to shop there.
Oghier
3308
Literally everyone understands the Dev-side of the argument. What surprises me is how difficult some people find to understand the consumer-side of it, or simply dismiss the concerns as unimportant or “weird.”
stusser
3309
All that stuff in the wiki is unimportant to me, or at least nothing that would lead me to boycott the storefront.
All I really care about is getting a game I want at the cheapest price possible. I need the “buy” button to work, and I need the downloads to be fast. That’s about it.
Why do I need to care about the consumers? What have they done for me?
You make it seem like it’s my responsibility to care about where and how other people buy games. You aren’t making the games I want.
You are just bystanders for my desires.
The creators are important. They make the stuff I want.
Oghier
3311
Righto. We’re all just extras in the movie about your life. I get that. What I was addressing is your apparent inability to understand the other side of the argument, not whether you should be swayed by it.
This fucking topic.
You guys are trying to push a monopoly on the rest of us.
stusser
3314
Same reaction here, I can’t for the live of me see why it’s 3300 posts. But some people really seem to deeply care about this.
Yeah, that’s just what I’m doing (other than this thread, which I think is for general discussion). The occasional “I’ll get it next year” will die as it gets old.
Ask Epic, they use it.
You don’t, feel free to ignore the problems. But the question is, why do you think I shouldn’t care about my credit card safety or long term survival of my purchases, sorry, licenses?
