Rocket League is an online game; they need to rewire their systems to work with Epic’s backend. And probably Epic needs to make their backend work with some game that’s not Fortnite, since AFAIK nobody else on the Epic store is using their backend either.
What I’d like to see on the list at the beginning is a critical reference to Epic’s market behavior.
Please correct me if I am wrong but in my perception Epic’s buying stuff off the market, establishing online sales monopolies of sorts (prices being dictated) and thus forces potential buyers of a certain product to become their customers.
(Retail (like buying Metro Exodus in your local store) is the exception right now but that’s an obsolote market anyways. And for now the Humble Store seems to work as just another Epic storefront regarding Epic’s games).
Hence all this is not like being unable to buy a game exclusively made for the PS4 for your Xbox, but it’s like being forced to buy the PS4 from Walmart because Walmart made a deal with Sony for the US market. And who likes being forced to buy from Walmart?
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Sure, but in this case, wouldn’t Steam be Walmart and Epic, since it’s a ‘Johnny come lately’ with a smaller selection, be more like Target?
Not saying it’s bad analogy, I just see Walmart as a juggernaut, and Epic isn’t a juggernaut.
You can edit the OP, it is a wiki. Please keep all edits neutral in tone, try to write them in such a manner that your enemies in the thread would read them and go “OK, that’s fine.”
Ah, thanks… didn’t read carefully.
But @pizzaddict had a good point and thus I have to rethink my thinking :)
The fact that they keep lying about their plans. It’s not complicated.
Keeping lying. Okay, I read through the items on the front page, and I get that they are taking Kickstarter games and putting them on Epic, but what other plans have they lied about? It would be good to keep the first page up to date if there are other lies that need to listed
I’m not paid to summarize 3888 posts into a list of “no collusion”, sorry. I’m still fine with revising my stance if they stop the bullshit.
I mean not asking you to go through 3578 (3579 now I guess) posts. I am asking you what lies you are talking about.
There are people that make a lot of bold claims and I just want to know what is true, and what isn’t.
There are a lot of strong opinions about Epic and their store front, and having a front page with all the facts would be nice.
And last I checked, there was a strong case for ‘collusion’ and this is not remotely the same situation.
Your right, I left the thread for a couple of weeks so I wouldn’t snap, and I still did after catching up. I’m sorry for that.
It’s not necessarily straight up lies. It’s stuff like the vague sales numbers, saying they’d stop exclusives if Steam lowered their share or claiming they’ll only keep 7% for ever. No one can factually contradict it, so they can just keep throwing marketing bullshit that’s not even new. Or let others do it for them.
It’s the same type behavior, even if the consequences are comparably non-existent. I’m too tired of being taken advantage off to take it seriously. In fact, quite the opposite, as you can tell, because I’m annoyed that it’s normalized as just doing business.
Anyway, that’s what I’m basing it on to say they might eventually cut it off, they wouldn’t be the first. I know it’s weak to say might, but I’d have to predict the future of the market to say, and if I knew how, I’d be playing the stocks instead.
You could see a lot of things if you think it makes Epic look bad.
On the other hand, I expect Epic will use this game as a test bed for their free multiplayer backend that allows completely platform agnostic crossplay matchmaking.
So like completely misrepresenting the facts, like when you said Epic is constantly lying?
You can believe that Epic is the one company that actually, really, truly means it and is doing everything so that there’s a competitive market where developers and customers are treated fairly all you want, but all you’ve objectively have is a bunch of money thrown at games that were already being made.
You can keep your facts and I’ll keep mine, thanks.
It could be worse, I could’ve backed out of not taking pre-orders, or of 2018 being the year of Paragon, or that there’s no issue with my launcher.
But sure, let’s make not believing MBA-speak the issue.
Well apparently they also have a bunch of reaction gifs and images too.
just fyi, the retail copies of Metro were changed to require Epic account too despite being advertised to use Steam keys for months - and plenty stores, even on release day still advertised steam key despite it being changed.
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The discourse around the Epic Games Store has completely gone off the rails if anyone can seriously suggest that Epic would remove cross-platform play from Rocket League between EGS and Steam.
Honestly, what thought process goes into making such a suggestion like that? I cannot even begin to empathize with the suggestion. It’s so far from anything resembling reality in my mind.
Like, did you forget that the entire reason why cross-platform play is even a thing these days is almost entirely because of Fortnite leading the way?
It’s because Epic wants the PC platform to be the Epic platform, compared to Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo’s PS, Xbox, and Switch platforms. They might want cross-platform between those four different platforms, but Steam is a competitor on the specific platform Epic covets. It’s totally reasonable to expect they’d want to kick Steam players/supporters in the balls as encouragement to pick up a second Definitive Edition copy over at the Epic store, “The way it’s meant to be played.”
Epic have been tripping over themselves trying to be the bigger shitbag, and because shitbags are gonna shitbag, this would just be yet another step in that direction.
