KevinC
4989
I expect Borderlands 3 to sell really well, I don’t see why it wouldn’t. If it was a game I was itching for ever since Borderlands 2, I wouldn’t wait six months to play it. Life is too short for that.
That being said, it doesn’t mean those people don’t have a right to gripe about technical issues with the store, over-sensitive fraud protection stuff, or missing features from Steam.
Disliking EGS isn’t mutually exclusive with using it, but when “forced” to use it, it does amplify the bitching. I’m dealing with that now since I wanted to support Travis with RGO. I have a laptop and desktop that I game on, and every time I’ve switched machines the EGS forgets my device and I have to re-enter login information and wait for the verification email before I can start playing. And yes, I know you can start games without the launcher, but the patches have been fast and frequent with RGO and I need the cloud saves.
Is it a major issue? No, but it’s an issue I could easily be avoiding if I could just buy the game where I wanted. And because it keeps popping up, and because I’m “forced” to deal with it right now, it’s a constant irritation that gets me griping. I’m sure Borderlands 3 will kick off a bunch of complaints for other users similarly “forced” to use it once it launches.
Made and published by Double Damage. It’s squarely in the indie category.
LockerK
4991
Borderlands 3 has a lot of other baggage though. I don’t expect it will be significant, but there will be some people who pass on it due to the collective amount of negative stories that have come out. Maybe exclusivity was a detractor but not a dealbreaker, but then you drag in all the Pitchford antics and it’s enough to reach a tipping point.
Like Kevin, I still expect it to sell really well.
I view exclusives like I view protectionist tariffs. They are good if you goal is to start something, but not good if they last a while and are the only reason the business stays afloat.
Come back to me in 1 to 2 years.
Well I secretly want Epic to fail because their tactics are anti-consumer. Otherwise I regard them at the same tier as Uplay, or Origin AKA stupid store I have no incentive to ever purchase anything from until the heat death of the universe.
What is the actual incentive? Exclusives don’t phase me. My backlog is long, and I am patient.
Bluddy
4994
A company can always have the excuse of “we’re not making as much money as steam, so we’ll keep using exclusivity”. If you allow it now, it will become legitimized and only grow, just like lootboxes, heavy DRM, gambling mechanics and other anti-consumer pro-company tactics. You either fight it now or you lose the battle.
This is “you’ll hear from my lawyer!!” level. If you believe this, file a case.
If Steam wants to get rid of exclusives, they should offer terms for developers to make exclusives less attractive. That’s how business is done.
If they don’t want to do that, that’s fine. That’s their decision. I don’t think it’s right though, for developers that go to Epic need to face the public backlash that they do because Steam can’t offer good enough deals.
In any case, Steam is Goliath. If a kid with a sling can take it down, it deserves to be taken down.
How did Metro turn out anyway?
LockerK
5000
Epic made nearly $3 billion in profit last year.
And how much did steam make?
Everything is relative.
Oh, and this pushing the goal post a lot, but how much of that profit was from game sales. I mean, we should do an Apples to Apples comparison. I mean, should Epic be stigmatized for selling a game that it made, that is highly successful? I mean, it’s not like Steam didn’t do that back in the day.
KWhit
5002
These posts sum up my position on the matter. Well said.
LockerK
5003
Calling a company that made $3 billion in revenue in gaming a “David” is disingenuous, but you already know that.
The last number I found for Valve is $4.3 billion in 2017. Of note, it was provided by SteamSpy creator and Director of Publishing Strategy at Epic.
Well, I didn’t kickstart those, and I would lose a lot more money chasing it if I did.
Doesn’t make anyone involved trustworthy, though. Or any other crowd-funding project at this point in time, as far as I’m concerned.
Double Damage didn’t. And Steam offering “deals” would be in no one’s best interest.
Bluddy
5005
So… you didn’t mean anything you said about exclusives above.
Sure. Everything is relative though.
In any case, Epic is David in the field of Game sales though. I mean, everyone is, compared to Steam. Nobody sells any where near as many PC games as Steam does. Not GoG, not Origin, not Uplay, not Humble Bundle, not Greenman Gaming, not Gamergate, not Fantastical.
I did. You need to get your foot in the door, and Epic does that by making it necessary to buy certain games. Its able to do that by offering better terms to developers.
Steam can always make it’s terms good enough that no developer would never sell on Epic though as a exclusive. They haven’t bothered to do so though.
I apologize to @Fishbreath and anyone who was offended by my jokes, I assumed that it would be clear that one cannot smell breath online, but my attempts at humor were clearly misguided at best.
I have deleted my recent offending post and won’t do it again.
