Nesrie
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Here comes the pot kettle, again.
Hmm, neat. Haven’t really gotten around to play Bethesda’s games, oddly enough. This tool looks less comprehensive, but still… cool.
Someone’s making a drop-in replacement for the Steam dll’s connection to the workshop, it would be cool if they’d hook up to these apis. On the other hand, I don’t know how anyone deals with the hosting costs for the really big mods, but it’s not really for me to worry.
They (will eventually) sell your information. I’d rather give it to Steam, or any single trustworthy paid service.
I literally have no idea what you are referring to…but I am not on the same side as a company with Fortnite and Tencent fueled funny money being weaponized as bribes in a cultural space where this is deeply frowned upon.
Are you saying Epic Games doesn’t bribe developers for exclusivity on their store?
LeeAbe
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Says the company spokesman.
Aceris
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It’s not really tencent fuelled, the tencent cash injection was a while back and was a one off.
Bribe seems overblown to me. It’s a standard business transaction, albeit one of which I disapprove.
You are of course free to split hairs over the details and turn a blind eye to other things that suit you, but the reality is there staring me in the face.
Also, bribe is a perfectly acceptable word to describe what Epic is doing. Why bother sugar coating it? It’s even made more devious if the Steam wishlist “snatch and grab” thing is true. Hardly standard tactics.
If you want to stretch it that far every monetary transaction could be labelled a “bribe”, all the way down to buying a game on Steam. Of course, you are using the word specifically to draw comparisons to actual instances of corruption or illegality.
Hello Mr. Strawman tumbling down a slippery slope!
I thought you believed splitting hairs and sugar coating wasn’t needed?
I am not “stretching” anything towards your “strawman” down the slippery slope of “all transactions” are now bribes.
They are if an exclusivity deal offer applies.
Context matters. When a crowd funded game announces to launch on Steam, etc…and Epic swoops in with Fortnite/Tencent cash right before launch to divert the game to only the Epic Store…I’m calling that money a bribe.
You may continue constructing your strawmans.
Why do you keep mentioning minority Owner Tencent?
Anyway, your irrational hatred of Epic has been established, and it does color every comment you make. It’s tough to have a conversation when the language you use is always hostile.
Others on this forum have legitimate complaints about Epic, but haven’t felt the need to overdramatize everything.
Currently, they have ads, a subscription system, and a 1 time donation. So, they have some revenue coming in.
@roguefrog So you believe that Microsoft bribed Bungie to put Halo on Xbox? You think Sony bribed Activision for the Call of Duty Alpha a week ago? That’s your word for legitimate business transactions?
Before you answer… no one called those things bribes.
The anti-Chinese folks are showing their colors. If someone cites Tencent as a reason for not using the EGStore, that’s completely their prerogative but I imagine it’s rough boycotting all of the games/products Tencent has invested in. Might as well boycott Disney (Star Wars, Pixar, Marvel, National Geographic, ESPN, etc.) too, as they’ve invested into Epic Games as well!
No, because making exclusivity deals is a standard business practice in the console space by First Party companies that actually completely control the means of production. PC Gaming has a totally different tradition. What Epic is doing IS totally different, because the nature and culture of PC gaming is different, especially with indie devs and the advent of crowd-funding. They are disrupting the market with funny money, or what I like to call bribes. It is non-standard and shouldn’t be immune to criticism. I think my position is pretty clear.
Because it is freakin’ hilarious: or they are a Chinese megacorp at the whims of the CCP and all that entails.
Yeah, your position is clear. You’re acting like a PC zealot who can’t abide any change.
Were you this seriously zealous about Valve making Half-Life 2 playable only on Steam? That was against the tradition of PC gaming too. The nature and culture of PC gaming was just like consoles then. Buy the disc. Play the game. No need for some online service to monitor your every move.
I was never against a store or launcher, even back when I bought Half-life 2 day one. It just felt like bizarro DRM then. It’s Epics tactics.
