Essential Oils And Other Holistic Bullshit


#646

I think that the non traditional or holistic medicine is in the grey area between actual medicine and bullshit. Western medicine is typically scientifically sound and rigorously updated and refined. The other spectrum are the health scams that are rampant in the un-restricted world of non-traditional medicine. While there are some treatments that may work, or have some function that could be quantified (but haven’t scientifically) there are a LOT of snake oils to slither through.


#647

It could have been a scam but he only charged me $5 for the rubber band thing and didn’t ask me to come back, so he wasn’t scamming me for much!

I was more suspicious about the later visit when he tried to sign me up for a year’s treatment. I was not about to do that.

He also wanted to hold me head in his hands and then give it a good twist. Said I’d hear a loud pop and asked if I was ok with that, I said no, I’m not ok with that. Don’t do that. I don’t want my neck twisted until it makes a loud pop.

I only went in the first place cause the GF goes and believes in it.


#648

I think there’s a difference in face validity, not that matters, really.

Your point is well taken. I haven’t studied the literature on it. My graduate training, being in the department of epidemiology and biostatistics spent a great deal of time teaching us how to deconstruct scientific research. As an aside, it gets to a point where you become convinced every published journal article is complete horseshit because you can always poke holes in the methodology, but that’s another story. I really should look at the literature sometime, though I am terribly out of practice.

Truth be told, though, even if there were work that was well done, I don’t think it would matter. There’s too much prejudice against it.


#649

Against non traditional medicine? No, not really. Sure resistance at first, but people of science come around. Like when ulcers were first linked to bacteria. Most sci/docs screamed baloney, but repeated study showed truth and it was accepted.


#650

Sometimes. But then there’s ketosis/low carb, which has had considerable evidence in favor over the years. But then, that has different political machinery working against it, I suppose.


#651


#652

“Cures cancer prevention.” Hmmm.


#653

Seeing stuff like that makes me livid with anger.


#654

Change that to “The fact that people are stupid enough to buy crap like that” and I’m right there with you.


#655

People who are extremely ill sometimes aren’t able to process information properly and are easy to take advantage of. I don’t blame sick people for being tricked.


#656

Around me chiropractors are essentially synonymous with physical therapy, and that’s why i think insurance often covers them. Chiropractors are often much cheaper and in order to get an insurance claim for physical therapy requires going on the “medical therapy treadmill” which means visits to GP, then specialists, then imaging, than more specialists, then appointments to heavily booked up sports or physical therapists who might be months out from when you first call.

I tend to think that Chiropracty as is often practiced in the US is some strange, arbitrary mix of massage/joint therapy and quakery. Genuine medical “practitioners” (if not doctors per se) want their patients to do better, and will probably, and perhaps individually, hit upon certain contortions or stretches or whatever that actually do help relieve tension or knots or kinks. If you have a misaligned “something” and you go to someone whose whole purpose is “aligning” somethings, you might well get some relief. OTOH, anyone who buys into the theory first and is indifferent to results is going to be a bad chiropractor who may well do more harm than good.

Most people i know seem to have fairly positive results with Chiropractors, but i do think there is a bit of a placebo effect here, since they tend to ignore the ineffective sessions.


#657

Fair enough.


#658

Nothing aligns the spine like a good rocket jump.


#659

Not a big enough penalty:


#660

https://www.teloyears.com/home/

this offends me, and should be illegal.


#661

What the ever loving … yeah, these people should be tossed in a jail.


#662

Are they actually saying that they can stop telomere decay or repair them? That’s Nobel Prize territory.


#663

Kinda hard to tell what they are “promising” other than giving you some supplement. I’m sure that is intentional.


#664

That sounds like a recipe for cancer, doesn’t it?


#665

Let’s just say that I would be… hesitant… to take anything that could directly access my DNA. :)