Everquest 2 to Ship on 10 CDs! Can we please move to DVDs?

So it is reasonable to conclude that while people have hardware that is significantly more powerful in order to play a current game sequel, it is not reasonable to assume that they have or would be willing to buy a $20 DVD drive.

If you don’t want to watch movies on your PC and your CD drive works fine, is there a reason to buy a DVD drive? What is going to make a PC owner say, “Hey, I need a DVD drive!” and go out and get one?

All of you guys who bought a DVD drive and installed it in your computer – why did you buy one?

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Mostly because I had hopes that the industry would start to make use of the extra storage space, and I liked to be ahead of the game, but also because I have a DVD buner in one of my computers for backing up of large amounts of data, so it always helps to have a reader in the other machines.

Just as good a question: Why would you buy a machine today that has a CD-Rom reader instead of a DVD reader like many people do?

All of you guys who bought a DVD drive and installed it in your computer – why did you buy one?

To burn DVD’s. I had no DVD drive on my computer until then.

Well if you don’t like simple action games, then the answer to your question would be infinity. OTOH, if you do like simple action games, then arguably, id has never released a bad game.[/quote]i don’t mean they suck, i mean the last id game i remember playing was quake3 in 1999 (or was it 2000?)

So using a DVD to back up data – that’s a good use. I wonder why more people haven’t upgraded to a DVD burner for that reason?

Is there any other reason to get a DVD drive?

It’s a chicken and egg problem. The best reason would be so you can avoid three or five or twenty CD-Roms, but that’s no use until distributors start publishing games on DVD format in large volumes.

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So using a DVD to back up data – that’s a good use. I wonder why more people haven’t upgraded to a DVD burner for that reason?

Is there any other reason to get a DVD drive?[/quote]

Not just back-up. When you are burning huge files, or want to make a high quality backup for a movie… or just want to put 4-5 movies on a single disc, a DVD is a great thing to have.

Probably nothing. But very few people who aren’t hardcore computer users will buy and install new hardware whether they need it or not. Most folks will just wait until they buy a whole new machine. That said, there is no reason NOT to buy a machine with a DVD drive these days. Most new machines–even cheap ones–come with one by default. So why not have one? They play CDs too, and they aren’t any more expensive than a CD-ROM drive.

I got my first DVD drive when I bought my last computer, in 2000. At the time, I noticed that it a good DVD drive cost the same as a good CD drive, so I said “why not?” I really don’t understand why everyone doesn’t have one at this point.

Same here, I’m using SCSI drives and there weren’t any cheap CD models so I got a DVD drive. And today I need it for the MSDN subscription. Encyclopedias, electronic phone books and the like ship on DVDs, too.

Far Cry made me buy one.

My CD-Rom was toast and UT2K4 was coming out on DVD, plus I wanted to be able to watch movies on my 21" monitor when the urge strikes me (or the TV is already taken). Thus, DVD player.

Also I am archiving a large (800+ tapes) VHS collection of my gramma’s. Thus, DVD burner.

Similarly to upgrading to XP, once I had a need I went ahead.

I bought mine to replace a dead CD-ROM. DVD and CD-ROM drives were about the same price for the same quality of drive, so why not?

Since good DVD drives are cheap, less than the price of a new game, I’m less understanding about the complaints. For more expensive stuff, like the impending OS and videocard upgrade I’ll face soon, I can understand being more reluctant. Those are going to run me $500 or so.

Look how many people bought the PS2 hard drive just to play FFXI. If that isn’t a compelling measure of how willing MMO players are to spend money on hardware to play the latest and greastest, I don’t know what is.

Yeah, but my view is I don’t upgrade unless I have a compelling reason to. If you have a healthy CD drive and aren’t interested in watching DVD movies on your PC, there isn’t much of a reason to spend the money to upgrade. The best reason under these circumstances seems to be to add a DVD burner for backing up data.

That’s the problem. Back in the day we all wanted CD drives so we could play games with FMV. Going to DVD doesn’t get us anything cool like that. I’m sure that’s why it’s slower to catch on.

Yeah, but my view is I don’t upgrade unless I have a compelling reason to. If you have a healthy CD drive and aren’t interested in watching DVD movies on your PC, there isn’t much of a reason to spend the money to upgrade. The best reason under these circumstances seems to be to add a DVD burner for backing up data.

If you really want to play Everquest 2 wouldn’t that be a compelling reason?

Maybe we should take up a collection to buy Mark a DVD drive just so this can be put to rest once and for all. :D

Of course, that would probably involve updating the front page, so that’s a non-starter… :twisted:

I have one now. I’m speaking hypothetically.

As to EQ2, if it only came on DVD, yeah, I’d upgrade. If I had my choice of CD or DVD media and I didn’t have a DVD drive, I’d go CD. Really, is that hard to open the drive door 10 times and put in a CD? You guys are acting like that’s painful, but it’s really just trivial and you only do it one time unless you have some bad luck.

Hard? No. Annoying, when there is already a widespread storage option with much greater storage capacity? Yes.

Simply put, the technology is out there, it’s used for DVD players and console games, and the only thing stopping it from being put to good use on the PC is the shortsightedness of game publishers.

Are there really a whole lot of games coming out these days that use more than 1 or 2 CDs? The average hasn’t really seemed to go up all that much over the past few years.