Well if things between EA and MS weren’t strained enough, this should ensure that the ropes do break. All behind the scenes of course.
Man, I can’t wait to read the fallout spin on this one! :D
Well cool, I hope this eventually allows a way for some of the homebrew stuff and emulators to work on non modded systems. I hate messing about with mod chips, and super nintendo emus are kinda slow on the dreamcast.
Although I’d rather not have to buy a crappy fps…
A run on the EB for Agent Under Fire! Preowned copies going for hundreds! Cats and dogs living together! Mass hysteria!
–Dave
hehehe… I have actually passed on buying that game for $4.95 before… I guess I’ll grab one next time that happens.
In a world where you can get a 2.53Ghz Dell PC for about $500, why does the world need a Linux Xbox at 700Mhz for $200 (besides, of course, giving Linux fanboys a reason to cheer)?
It’s a fun experiment, but I don’t get the underground desire to create an open console platform. IMHO it completely destroys the point of a console and turns the Xbox into an underpowered PC hooked to your TV at low resolution.
Well, I guess the reasoning is that the Xbox has a much better videocard, 5.1 surround sound and a progessive scan-capable DVD player. And doesn’t crash. Although they have been known to break, I’ve heard. Much smaller hard drive, too. And the CPU is slow, of course. I think the “GeForce4.5” videocard does take a lot of pressure off the CPU, but I don’t know exactly how much, offhand. The Xbox is also fairly portable (compared to the Dell rig).
Well, maybe because most people want a gaming console AND a computer. If you can have a box that does both for $200, or even just use it as a second computer if there’s a traffic jam of people in your house wanting to use the main PC, that’s a considerable savings.
Just give your kid an Xbox and tell him that he can make his own computer out of it. “Hey, Dude, you’re getting an Xbox!”
This is a duplicate thread.
Has anyone figured out how to run Linux on a DDR dance pad yet, Wumpie?
Did Tyjenks “forget” to log in again?
There is a very funny and thought provoking take on the Xbox in todays (4/3) PvP comic (www.pvponline.com)
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Damn you! Damn you to Hell Adam. Did you have to go and ruin this illusion for Linux fanboys? :D :D :D
Anyway, this whole farce ranks up there with running emulators just so you can stare at sub-par 1970 graphics until you go blind.
Well, emulators are certainly preferable to buying up the old systems and hoarding them all over your house, Dave Long stylee. IMO.
I think “fun experiment” sums it up. I don’t see why Microsoft is so down on it, though. If someone wants to spend money on an Xbox and then hack into it, so what? The number of people who would purchase and Xbox and then run Linux on it would be minute and have no impact on Xbox game sales.
I think “unmodified” is the key term here. I understand MS doesn’t allow “modified hacked” Xboxes (Xboxi?) to use Live. Can this hack lead to cheating online?
If games use data stored on the hard drive (and often, even if they don’t) and rely on the Xbox client’s data for important things like hit detection, etc., then yes, you can ruin the Xbox Live experience with a hacked box.
I don’t have the link handy, but apparently PSO has already been hacked.
–Dave
How could a save game change hit detection?
the middle part of DaveLong’s sentence was about relying on the client-side data stream. if someone has a sort of proxy on their xbox to “modify” their communications to the server and pretend they always hit every time they fire, etc… badness ensues.
typical aimbot fun time, etc.
edit #2: the first edit was to correct a typo. the 2nd edit was because i felt dirty seeing the Edited 1 time in total line.
Bingo.
–Dave
firstly, a proxy would be easier to run on a seperate computer wodged inbetween your xbox and xbox live - linux nat boxes were used to network xboxes before live got off the ground, and it would be easy to do it there (as has been done for everquest).
other than that, it’s not that farfetched. ecos ships a linux system for embedded systems for 60K of ram. the problem is that once you boot linux, you then have to boot into the game w/live, and live can at some point scan for the telltale sign of any linux system running behind the scenes (and live can be updated).
you can start doing some funky emulation/behind the scenes stuff to fool live, but the resources will be firmly on microsoft’s side.
it’s an interesting concept. one i hope doesn’t happen