2735

Yup it is big difference don’t forget the hat and sunglasses also I’ve got a +5 Chrisma apparel set. I think there is +2 Chrisma hat out there somewhere, and for big purchases like that a shot of grape mentants and booze. Using the Alt key as way of equipping apparel would be really nice.

2736

Odd, I’ve completed two quests in Goodneighbour with the option “I’ve already cleared that area”. Did a ton of fast traveling in between too. Another quest that I had sent me to the location that I’ve already been to but overlooked a single enemy somewhere in the corner on the top floor. The whole area was empty except for that one enemy I had to kill once I acquired the quest.

The only area that respawned so far was the one for MacCready’s final quest.

2737

Well… on the PS4, the 2nd part of the brotherhood of steel stuff, with the verticopter.

Boy that framerate gets rough.

2738

Finished the game today. Guess Witcher 3 spoiled this game for me. In retrospect I will primarily remember this game for it’s constant and long loading times.

2739

Is there any reliable source of Dirty water? It is stupid that you can’t use purified water in place of dirty water.

2740

I’ve played a few things with painful loading times recently. W3 was one of them. The other was maybe Unity? Disappointing that even with SSDs that has not gone away. No idea if the consoles are worse. I would pay more to spare myself - do PCI/NVME drives help with any of this?

2741

This is one of those games that requires a second screen, a tablet or something to occupy yourself during the load times. They’re atrocious, even with a fast PC/ SSD combination.

2742

Yeah, the load times are a mystery. I have an SSD too and it’s like, go out for Chinese food and come back sated before the game loads.

2743

Can you be more specific? 20 seconds, 30? My world map loads in ~10-15 seconds by my estimation. Basically not even worth tabbing out. That’s with an i5 haswell, 16gb of ram and samsung 840 evo (I don’t think other components matter here). Fwiw, I’m on w8 (not 8.1).

edit: Just did some quick test, first game load when the game first starts was 9 seconds (relatively upopulated area), fast traveling between distant parts of the map (world map every time) took between 12-16 seconds each time. It didn’t seem to matter where I was going, it was the same for outskirts and urban areas.

2744

I’m around 10-15 seconds also, on a SSD. Maybe they have a ton of savegames or something? I only have 3-4 saves aside from the autosave and the quicksave.

2745

That’s a good point, I regularly prune my save folder so I don’t have to wait 2 minutes for steam sync in case my game crashes.

2746

About 30 seconds on an older i5, 1TB SSD (Samsung), 16GB RAM. It’s not absolute, it’s relative though. I hate waiting.

2747

My load times are also around 10-15 seconds. Samsung SSD.

I wonder if it’s a bug that virtually every safe in the game has the exact same loot?

Bunch of random ammo
A random pipe pistol of some sort
A silver fork, spoon, knife or locket

It’s boring.

2748

Inital load open world: 45s
Your single Room in Diamond City: 9s fastest loading time
Goodneighbor: 35s
Leaving Goodneighbor/Diamond City (elevator ride) -> Financial District: 1:11m longest loading time iirc

I7 (old), 12gb, hdd 7200 rpm, Windows 10.

I wouldn’t complain about the load times if one hasn’t have to traverse all these zones over and over again, after a very short dialog with an NPC.

2749

That is one nice thing about FO4. It runs in windowed fullscreen well, and behaves well with two monitors. Never had instances where I’d lose mouse lock on monitor 1 when I shouldn’t or anything, and it lets me easily mouse over to monitor 2 to fart around on the internet during the painful fast travels. Which is nice since I’ve got FO4 installed on a 5400rpm mechanical drive since my SSD is small enough it’s largely only for my OS and a few notoriously slow loaders, like Paradox games. They’re getting cheap enough I could get a decently sized one for a reasonable price now, but eh.

2750

I’m coming off of Witcher 3, so the load times seem really, really short to me. For the Witcher 3 I usually had time to go get some cereal, pour some milk, put the cereal and milk away, go searching for a clean spoon, take the bowl to the table, and starting eating it. But with Fallout 3, I hardly even have time to pour the milk before the game has already loaded up.

2751

Ha! One area where Fallot 4 beats Witcher 3 in this thread! :-P

-Todd

2752

Just caught up on the last 5 pages of this thread. I really held out on fast travel until I got to Diamond City when Codsworth and I were full and I didn’t want to slog back to Sanctuary. Since then I’ve been saying “screw it, I’m fast traveling.”

I’m up to 25 hours and have just made it to Diamond City. So I’ve had a lot of fun just poking around (as it turns out, I did clear out a couple of places that were quest locations, so when I got the quests, I merely had to run to the empty location and pick up an item).

The spawning of legendary mobs is squirrelly: I ran acrouss none in my first 15 hours, then 2 in about 30 minutes. Yesterday I ran across a legendary Mirelurk (that destroyed me, by the way). As he was killing me, a Mister Gutsy came out of nowhere and started attacking me, and he was attacked by a Legendary Radscorpion. Since I died, I reloated that game, and none of that happened the second time!

Couple of questions, perhaps minor spoilers:

  1. Does the Rifleman Perk affect Energy Rifles? It says “Rifles do more damage” but there isn’t any way you can actually see your perk-related damage, is there? If I understand the perk, the rifle shows some sort of damage number and the perk increases that damage, right? But I don’t see any increased value, just the rifle ‘base’ damage. If that’s true there’s no way to see what the perk-adjusted value is, which means I can’t tell if the laser rifle is affected by the perk. So is it?

  2. Does a skull by an opponent means that you’re too low level to reasonably kill it?

  3. What effect does joining the BOS have? Does it change anything or just add more quests to the mix?

  4. Does every site on the map get labeled as ‘CLEARED’ once you finished it? Conversely, if a site doesn’t say CLEARED is there something else I need to do there?

Quest Related

  1. I ran through Vault 81, did a couple of small two-step quests. Got a couple of people who will buy stuff from me. Is there any big quest related to the vault that I’ve missed? The main quest ended pretty much once I talked to the Overseer. The objectionable thing that happened to a bunch of you did not happen to me.

  2. The guy at Thicket Excavations (the quarry): I closed the valves, killed some stuff and the quest went to complete. But the last step isn’t checked (“talk to guy”). Does anything else happen there (like, does the quarry eventually drain?)

  3. Near Sanctuary, I found a robot disposal yard. I activated a robot. He’s sort of patrolling around. Does he do anything more? Is there anything else I can do there?

  4. There’s some dudes in an ampitheatre in the city who appear to be some sort of cult. They want you to let go of your possessions. Is there a quest related to that?

2753

I get some loads in the 10-15s range, others in the 30+ second range. I do have a ton of quicksave slots though.

2754

Yes.

details

Using the terminal in the shed you can make him visit 4 other locations. He will actually drive there so you can run behind him and pick up the loot on the way there. It’s buggy though, at one point he got stuck trying to circumvent a blocked bridge, he kept driving into the water and out of it on repeat. He will eventually get there though, so you fast travel and wait about an hour for him to show up. When he shows up he will dick around a little before driving off in seemingly random directions(yeah, it’s buggy). Later he will be back at the scrapyard so you can send him to another location. (If he doesn’t die I guess, mine didn’t)