True enough. I have fewer problems with pitting people against each other than either pitting animals against each other or people against animals. People at least have a modicum of choice. But yeah, in the game’s setting, it certainly isn’t out of place.
While cage-fighting in Mad Max is probably the more accurate inspiration, my first thought about the second DLC was Pokemon.
I think this is the correct thought. Also Pokemon is pretty fucked up if you pause to consider the ethical implications.
Its supply and demand. There’s nothing sinister IMO because they are being relatively upfront about it ahead of time from what I understand and will fully honor season passes purchased before the price change.
Prior to this announcement, people who were interested in the season pass at the $30 price presumably mostly already owned it. By announcing that contrary to conventional expectation waiting will lead to a price -increase- rather than a decrease, they’re driving a large number of people to make purchases at a previously unacceptable price point. It’s plenty sinister. And, unfortunately, it works.
(I mean, yes, presumably someday it will be discounted below $30 again, either in a sale or as part of an even more massively discounted GOTY version of the base game, but it’s going to take even longer for that to happen now.)
Razgon
3802
How is that sinister? people can always choose not to purchase it? Its not like they are using advanced psychology here like, say, Candycross to make a sale. THAT is creepy.
TurinTur
3803
I think he said “sinister” tongue-in-cheek, people. Lower a bit the forks.
(that was a figure of speech, too. I don’ think you have forks on hand! :P)
Squee
3804
Yep, that’s the case. I think it’s a bit cheesy, especially how well it’s working, but I wasn’t drawing connections to Bethesda and the reptilians to bring about the new world order through gradual price increases in DLC. Yet.
kedaha
3805
It quite obviously isn’t supply and demand, as there is no supply curve for a digital good - it’s somewhat similar to a good in a monopoly market.
Razgon
3806
Sure, but a market of luxury goods, which is all the difference.
Yep. As for “sinister,” it depends upon one’s definition. I would be quicker to say “ridiculous,” but there’s obviously a method to the madness. The intent seems to be trying to break the prevalence of wait-until-super-discounted-deluxe-version shoppers. By jacking up the cost of the DLC, it ostensibly lengthens the tail of profits for Bethesda - 75% off of $60 is certainly more worthwhile than 75% off $29.99 for them a year or so from now.
Edit - also, was I reading something into it that isn’t there, or does it seem like Bethesda may make people without the Season Pass pay for the mod kit which is not only needed to make mods but also play them?
Wound up grabbing the season pass on GMG last night with the discount code. Their marketing sure did the job, GMG had actually run out of keys and I got an email saying it would be 24-48 hours before they got more and could fulfill my order.
I don’t know about an outright restriction, but what usually happens is that as DLC comes out that offers new features, mods will be published that depend on those new capabilities. If you don’t own the DLC, you can’t use that mod.
Interestingly, Fallout 4 (the base game) has dropped to $39.99 in both Best Buy and Gamestop.
robc04
3812
Scott rarely complains about any game. He’s kinda the opposite of a hater since he almost always finds the good in a game.
Enjoy your molerat cage wrestling!
Grifman
3814
I’m personally not interested in that part of the DLC, but that really irrelevant to the point he was trying to make.
Grifman
3815
Where does it say a “hater” has to complain about most games?
I believe it’s found in “Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate …” so that’s hating more than one. Five, at least.
