That’s a cool addition to survival mode, not really cheating but really helps if something comes up in real life and you don’t have time to find a bed. Nice touch.
Bethesda confirmed today that the Nuka World DLC will be the last official addition to the game.
Hey Kristi, what level were you when you hit Trinity Tower? I’m playing a similar build/character, with perhaps more emphasis on luck. In Fallout games more than any other, I always have a soft spot for the rifle and stealthy play style.
At level 10 – having pretty much just zoomed through Diamond City for a few basics – I decided to bypass TT for now, and Dogmeat and I’ve continued meandering south. We did, however, manage to experience the glorious Battle for the Boston Library with half a dozen automated Ptotectrons on my side. More like that, please. And maybe a little more depth next time, please.
First southeastish and then southwestish as we steer around a supermutant junkyard. We encounter a small radio tower on a small hill. No one around, we approach and unsurprisingly, threats eject out of the ground all around us. We take them out and activate the tower, Farcry style. Two signals emerge, both weak, and it seems we must choose one or the other. We pick a very amusing SOS loop featuring a young woman and a supermutant. We leave the radio going and decide to follow the signal to its source. We continue southwest and encounter a small upscale suburb surrounding a playground, with two Yao guai loping laps. We snipe them from an upstairs bedroom in one of the houses and continue southeast. Although the signal strength grows, instead of reaching the stated source of the signal I realize we have ended up down in West Roxbury Station, presently occupied by supermutants. I think I steered us too far south.
I passed on survival mode, but it did inspire me to enforce a set of principals surrounding when to save and reload that are much stricter than I’ve ever chosen to deal with in an RPG game. I love that feeling you get when you know that every choice counts.
I think I was around 52 or so 'cause I was creeping a lot up till then. But I had a very high intelligence (character not me!) so I leveled fast. Which lead me to my observations, above, as to when and where things get more difficult. I think difficulty may be driven a bit by main quest progression as well. It is certainly based on how south you go, though also, I believe on your level.
I wish I could set some principals and then just play that way. I need constant enforcement! And nothing enforces you to be very careful more than a bed a half mile away!
BTW ballistic weave is extremely serious on survival mode. As one would probably expect. But it really really helps survivability (combined with armourer 4).
I’ve been traveling a lot, but I am back at it today with my no-mod militiawoman and she’s around level 62 now.
I’ll probably almost die --or rather --die in some horrible fashion in a bit and describe it here!
Ok. Wow. Been playing back again – I have some observations on survival and a narrative.
First I am in love with my fully modded assault rifle – talk about bringing the pain! (I never say that in real life). Sniping and no recoil and pow! Just as fast a trigger can pull. Even good in vats. Relentless legendary. I call it “Henry” after --uh — well, it sounded nice.
Second – and this is serious – those double bladed assault dominatrix robots with the laser heads? Just forget it. And they go invisible. That is a serious antagonist. As in loading the game a buncha times and trying to find a closer bed (add hyphens) antagonist. Wow. And they are TOUGH!
Finally, crossing the bay (swimming) near Revere Station (a dangerous raider outpost for sure) to the lighthouse for a quest give-in, I apparently caused a mirelurk queen to rise up. So ok --get this --and this is no exaggeration (hardly): Mirelurk queen, her pups, raiders everywhere, (including one legendary), and oh? did I forget? the Brotherhood flying in. Now that was total chaos. Mirelurk queen attacked the raiders. BOS attacked – I dunno --everyone (on survival a REAL danger is an exploding velocicopter).
I don’t know what you would do as a character in vanilla in that situation --but in survival? You usually just run (or swim) like hell.
After ten minutes of bloody carnage and a few sniping shots – I managed to clear the area. Ok, I managed to go loot the bodies and kill a few mirelurk pups who were still running around. One of the best emergent battles I’ve ever fought in a game. I was scared to death! Bed save was 25 plus minutes earlier at some factory.
ps – I never found that legendary raiders drop – he was disintegrated by the Mirelurk’s queen’s acid or something. Damn you Bethesda!
Wow you have have turned this thread into something special. LOVE IT.
Bateau
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That was a great writeup Kristi. And I instantly recognized the location because I had a similar adventure there myself :).
And yeah, legendary drops can be hard to find with all the crazy ragdoll physics that are in the game. I remember wading through some irradiated water (all hail Aquaboy!) while I desperately tried to maneuver my mouse so I could reach the bandit that somehow clipped inside some underwater shaft.
Thx Bat – did Ol Ironsides tonight – it’s a legendary farm fest if you are careful there. Managed to get a two shot institute pistol (of limited worth perhaps but better than old faithful for curie)
Speaking of Curie – I got her (spoiler spoiler spoiler)
– into Human/synth form and she’s making quite a show at combat. I’ve been putting the burn mod on my companions weapons to see if they hit (ie, a target is burning) and she is doing great!
Plus some of her comments are priceless.
Level 72 and completely armoured up with ballistic weave and combat armor and what not – and I died 2 times tonight – grenades! Just wow.
Far Harbor probably next – Militiawoman is probably my faction, though I’ve railroaded quite a bit.
Btw as I close in on end game here in a few weeks Ill post a post-mortem Fallout 4 survival mode.
As you can expect --it will NOT be a Bethesda Fan-girl commentary, but rather a pro and con of the game. Clearly story and dialogue mechanics are weak sauce. (Is this what you all mean by “role -playing is weak”? cause when I hear “roleplaying” I think Wizardry and then wonder about mechanics and min/maxing --and on survival there is PLENTY of that).
But … is this really more a masterpiece than it ostensibly portrays? Or is it a terribly dysfunctional allotment of sandbox and DLC money? We’ll see.
Bateau
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Yes, roleplaying means playing a certain type of persona and to have your actions at least somewhat validated through game’s mechanics instead of it all just being in your head.
As for Survival cons - one of the biggest gripes I have with survival is just how much it hamstrings Charisma builds. Main point of that spec is to be able to talk your way out of situations and the rng in this game certainly isn’t in player’s favor when it comes to skill checks, even if you heavily invest into this stat (and wear charisma enhancing clothing). I hope they’ll tweak this in the near future because I have a feeling that charisma build will be a great way to play in the Nuka World dlc.
The other would be the sheer abundance of resources. Maybe that’s the Misery vet in me talking but I think they could easily cut the amount of resources (ammo, food, healing items) down to 10% of what they are now and it would still be too much.
I haven’t touched this game since weeks within its release date. So decided to pick it back up and my original build, a boring mish-mash attempt to be an Everyman, wasn’t working for me so I started over using this build: The Infiltrator
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Yes, roleplaying means playing a certain type of persona and to have your actions at least somewhat validated through game’s mechanics instead of it all just being in your head.[/quote]
Agreed. One thing I feel should be mentioned, though is that you can not only observe, but you can also sort of role-play with the weird, serendipitous events that seem to be prevalent in Bethesda games. Such as Sips’ veritable internal dialog during the King Crab Incident. Lone farmer dude is just chilling with his pal Uthgerd and their new chicken, when suddenly all hell breaks loose at Lakeview Manor and it takes him 5 minutes to, in a kind of RP way (“Woooooh, I stole your battle axe!”), get everything back to normal.
I recall encountering that sort of thing lots in pre-FO4 games but haven’t seen anything like it in FO4.
That looks… really fun. Thanks for the link.
I dunno about some of the advice on that infiltrator build. I think the Deliverer is great --but at levels past, say 40 or so, it takes a lot of damage to bring some stuff down. The .44 is better but much, much slower. I always felt like they needed an in-between pistol. It is my observation that pistols are a bit underpowered AND don’t have any armor piercing ability (unless you get the 30 percent legendary). Both riflewoman and commando have ap potential, and that becomes more important later.
That said, there are a LOT of multipliers for sneak attacks (including a companion perk) so it might be possible … I’d just hate to pull out the deliverer when I had one of those assault dominatrix robots coming at me with its blades flying around --invisible --and getting ready to laser you. The 10 mm that you can buy at bunker hill might be better.
Speaking of guns, I would swear my plasma induced hunting rifle penetrates defenses much better than a regular ballistic one. I wonder what attack it uses? Ballistic or energy? or some combo? It is also my observation that laser weapons are inherently weak for two reasons: Defenses are common for energy weapons AND it appears there may be a damage drop with distance built in. I’ll look for more of that when I can.
More garbage settlement assets coming on July 22nd.
I am very disappointed by the focus of the DLC. I wanted MORE story, MORE lands to explore. Outside of the peg boards which I would have paid DLC price for on its own, I just wish the DLC had all been made to primarily expand the gameworld. :(
I don’t understand their decision making outside of the fact that the settlement DLC is the cheapest stuff they could add.
Agreed. On a new play over I’d completely blow off settlements and run wild.
Kristi
I read a number of analyses about weapons and they all agree, armor piercing is not worth it. You’re better off getting increased damage mod at the same level of Gun Nut. While I’m at it, I’ll also note that bleeding weapons are better than burning because bleeding stacks while burning doesn’t in case anyone was wondering.
As for the Deliver, are you using VATS, because it’s a VATS weapon. The AP costs are so low, you can get a ton of VATS shots off, and with some of the perks that allow you to bank criticals and increase critical damage, it’s a killer.
As far as the plasma induced hunting rifle,the weapon stats shows how much damage it does by type, ballistic and energy so it does both. And lasers are good early to mid game but they drop off in comparison to plasma weapons - they just don’t keep up.
Grif – I’d love to agree with you --but are you sure? And is that a survival mode analysis? Deliverer is a great gun – but you can put 50 rounds into super mutant overlord legendary warlord etc – I am not s sure that’s enough …
In other words my opinion is still that: Raw straight Riflewoman damage is gonna be the best overall kick ass on a target,
That along with critical shots.
Bless your heart Griff I’ve been using critical banker/critical hits for 3 months now and maxed gun nut. But your points on vats seem good. How is it however that you believe the Deliverer (a pistol) can kill stuff at level 50 plus? If you fire fast and keep the trigger going sure – but even in vats – it just doesn’t cut it – at least – I don’t think so. But I wanna believe.
Well, I wasn’t saying that it was better than maxed out rifleman, I was just saying that it’s a viable option in VATS. I’ve seen some gameplay videos with people just killing everything it seems with the Deliverer. That’s said, I’ve not tried in survival or above level 50 myself. But when I start my survival run after Nuka World I’ll come back and report back in. How’s that, bless my soul :) First time I’ve heard someone say “Bless your heart” on a forum, gave me chuckle :)
