1770

People love their righteous rage validated by peers. When my friends ask about the game, and if it is that bad, I say “sure, have many bugs, but is fun for me”. Maybe because my char is melee based I have avoid most of the problems with the game, and since my build “solve” the survavility, I am playing a different game than the one people complain.

1771

All true. Still, though, the this game has some truly stellar parts. The world building and detail is astonishing; roaming their version of post-apocalypse West Virginia shows a level of detail and environment crafting that is second to none, IMO. The atmosphere, the written notes and holos, the geography, the environmental disaster hellscapes in some places are all extremely well executed, from a conceptual and design point of view. And the game engine, while creaking in many places, does generally work, or I would not have been able to put in as many hours as I have so far, and as many others have. None of that makes the criticisms invalid; the game has more problems in terms of bugs, systems design, and execution than should reasonably be expected in this day and age, and yes, many of them are of the variety that other games have long ago figured out.

I went in to this expecting…well, nothing, as I had read pretty much nada about it, and it came as almost a total new thing to me, without preconceptions. I’ve been pissed by a lot of the bugs and poor decisions in the game, absolutely, but it still is delivering a game experience that I can’t get anywhere else right now (though I am sorely tempted to reinstall FO 4 for the new Settlements Conqueror mod or whatever it’s called).

1772

Okay, okay. $19.99 but not a dime more.

1773

I’m in for fifteen buckaroos. It’ll happen.

1774

I was looking on Amazon. It’s $39.97 for a boxed copy. OTOH if you want a digital download it’s still $59.99. WTF?

1775

Doesn’t cost anything to warehouse digital copies, so they only go on sale in coordinated marketing pushes. Physical copies are different.

1776

Oh, that makes sense.

1777

Yes, outside huge sales or grey markets, physical copies are often cheaper. I just bought Turbotax Deluxe 2018 for $30 as a physical copy when it’s $40 digital. They shipped a box to my door for less money. It’s crazy.

I actually own a USB DVD drive for that sole purpose.

1778

It’s the problem with Bethesda as a whole at this point.

We’re still dealing with crap from Oblivion for the most part. After 12 years you should iron out the fundamental flaws in your designs, not just shrug and keep repeating them.

1779

When Oblivion came out, it still had the jank from Morrowind, which still had the design issues from Daggerfall, which had the design issues from Arena. They just won’t learn. The combat has sucked forever, the system of spamming abilities to increase your points in tha ability(running into walls to run faster, spamming fireballs for 2 hours, lockpicking, whatever), has just always sucked.

Sometimes other things in the game make up for it(world design in Morrowind, sense of scope in Daggerfall, the novelty of Fallout in 3d), but it’s diminishing for sure.

1780

It’s not just the tentpole games either. Remember Redguard? It was cool in a lot of ways, and it was janky AF. Remember Skynet? WAY ahead of it’s time. Like a Battlefield 1942 in the Terminator future war setting. REALLY COOL! Unplayable buggy and janky. I don’t know what their deal is.

1781

I felt like for the longest time, they were the only game in town if you wanted epic scale open world adventure. While they’re different games, I feel like Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey and others like it have greatly narrowed the gap. While they may not have the kind of exploration that The Elder Scrolls has, they also come without all the jank.

1782

…annnnnd it appears Bethsoft used an older build for this patch (fixed things now unfixed). Version control FTW.

1783

Jeeze, how bad can they get? I’m back to $15.00 as a price point.

If I may ask, which and how much? I see them between $25 and $40.

1784

If you’re the type of person that has friends, maybe you could get one of them to give you their second copy.

The game is so hard to move that some stores are bundling physical copies of the game with an Xbox bundle that already comes with it’s own digital copy.

1785

Fucking amateurs.

1786

You may ask, thank you for asking if you may ask, I appreciate the courtesy due my exalted station. It was $12.99!

1787

It seems the newest patch was built from an earlier branch of the game lacking hotfixes, as it reintroduces some minor issues like, I dunno, dupe bugs.

I don’t even own F76, I just get such a thrill of schadenfreude in my bones every time the developers expose their legendary ineptitude, which happens to be with every move they make. They’re so terrible, I love it!

1788

I think those of us who didn’t buy it have derived more entertainment value out of this ongoing debacle than those that bought it.

1789

I honestly can’t think of a AAA game that even approached F76’s low quality over time. Sure, plenty of games were broken at release, but the AAA ones all got fixed-- it’s been three months and F76 is still hella-broken. The devs can’t seem to get it together.

Even MMOs didn’t regress dupe bugs. I mean, that’s beyond the frickin’ pale.