3301

Does anyone even care if you steal? I think I’ve stolen stuff right in front of people’s faces without repercussion.

3302

They care occasionally. I try not to steal in front of people but generally, yeah, nobody cares.

3303

Was marked as owned item? (red label)
Were you hidden?

They care, usually. Most of the times they will steal back from you if they see you stealing something, and go hostile if you try it again.

But, yeah, it doesn’t really matter if you steal stuff in the game. Why? Because it lowers your karma, but the karma barely has any effect in all the game, as karma and faction reputation are different things. Cass doesn’t like evil guys, and that’s pretty much about it.

3304

Yeah, they do care if you steal. I once had the whole of Camp McCarran try to shoot me because I took one lousy kitchen pot to fix their food processor with. Dicks.

Stealing whilst hidden avoids this issue, and a moderate amount of stealing hasn’t stopped me having better Karma than Jesus, Siddhartha and Confucius combined, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

3305

The higher your repair skill, the more you repair an item when you perform a repair. So if you had something that was hard to find extras of (say, special armor or a weapon you’ve been looking for a long time) you actually get some benefit from reading a repair +10/20 magazine before repairing it (though to be honest I’ve never actually DONE that, I always forget and end the game with something like 15 repair magazines in my inventory).

3306

Yes and sometimes, though my sneak skill is only in the low 20s. My character is a bit of a lowlife who just steals everything that’s of any value. No one has ever really reacted.

Also even though I steal very often I think my character status is still “good”.

3307

Related to stealing somehow … is there a way to actually buy the stuff that lies on the counters in stores?

Some have interesting stuff lying around, but as far as I can tell, you cannot buy it - can you?

rezaf

3308

One of my favorite routines in the Fallout games is … go to a merchant to buy something, find out I can’t afford it, go into the back room, steal a bunch of shit, sell that stuff to the merchant, and then buy what I want. It’s not realistic but it always makes me laugh.

3309

Sometimes you can. Theres a pawn shop that sells some of the guns on the shelves and after I stole them he wasn’t selling them. Also if you steal That Gun in Novac he wont be selling it.

Its not the case for everything though.

3310

:)

3311

Yeah, they care no matter what the item. Apparently, stealing rusted tin cans from the PGs is a crime punishable by death. It’s like every one is some kind of insane hoarder of junk.

The karma system is a bit messed up, I had munched on the juicey flesh of >25 people -including the chard corpse of a certain “prestigious” person and still was a saintly figure of the wastes. It wasn’t until I massacred a certain NCR outpost, devoured it’s inhabitants and stole every item my blood stained hands could touch the game considered my just evil.

Not that karma matters much.

3312

Hmm, sounds like it won’t be a continuation of your existing character. That is most unfortunate.

3313

Sounds like a terrible DLC. I was hoping for a DLC on New Reno or New Canaan.

3314

To hell with this DLC, what I want to know is: You know some unemployed Fallout psychopath has stashed a bunch of cheetoes and diet cokes and is getting to work. I wonder when FO1/FO2 are going to be converted to FNV.

3315

That’s a Bethesda tradition, though. If you loitered inside a store in Daggerfall until after hours, everything on the shelves would magically be free, and you could load up on high-priced goods and sell it all back to the merchant in the morning.

3316

Yeah, just display items though.

IIRC the older Fallout you could steal from the story inventory by using the steal skill on the shopkeeper, but you had to make a check on every item. In Arcanum they actually put a locked chest in each store that contained the entire store inventory.

3317

I was playing cautiously, taking my time, but I have lots of the southern map explored up to the deathclaws (need bigger guns!) and over to the river. I finally ventured north to Boulder and Lake Mead, now I think it’s inevitable, it’s time to wander into Vegas or the airport NCR base. I like how the various areas have slightly different feels. The lake versus the desert, the powder gang zones versus the NCR versus the legion areas. This game has a lot more flavor than the capital wasteland did, though looting is a bit of the same old story.

My favorite thing is sniping things with the varmint rifle. There’s a hunting rifle, but I haven’t tried that out because I’m unsure if its scope mod features night vision (I love this with the varmint rifle).

Still, I think that cowboy repeater is the bee’s knees. Is there anything that it can’t do (aside from shoot fast or snipe I guess)?

3318

Oddly enough, in Morrowind people knew their own inventory. I once stole a diamond and tried to sell it back to the jeweler. She didn’t care for that.

3319

yeah, the cowboy repeater rocks. Me and Cass with our cowboy repeaters! frikkin taking down everything. awesome awesome gun!

3320

Posted this in the bargain thread too.

There’s some stupid prices on all formats of Fallout New Vegas at Gameplay (UK)

PC version is only £13.99.