Fallout: New Vegas

Kalil · 2011-01-03T20:02:32.000Z

StGabe:

You get the explanation once you get 6 star caps. That took me a long time (not surprising as I had no idea that I should even be looking for them).

Im pretty sure it triggers after you find the first cap and this is backed up by the wiki which says that the encounter in which you get the quest is triggered shortly after you get your first the encounter with Malcolm Holmes will be triggered.

Jarmo · 2011-01-03T22:44:48.000Z

What’s the weirdest glitch that has happened to you in Fallout: New Vegas?

For me it was when one of my companions was temporarily gone from me for a quest reason. I didn’t empty the companion’s inventory but on returning it was empty. I lost some good stuff but didn’t want to restore. Then, about 70 gaming hours later, when I exited Lucky 38 (could have been for the first time), the companion’s lost inventory items were suddenly back.

I guess the guys who had held onto my gear all that time had some regrets or their bureaucracy just finally processed the ticket and returned the stuff.

JPR · 2011-01-03T23:11:39.000Z

That was a known issue that got patched (at least on PC). The inventory was still accessible by console command, so if you patched your game somewhere in there, it could have been fixed that way.

Jarmo · 2011-01-03T23:38:26.000Z

I play New Vegas on PS3. Anyway, the items appeared in the middle of a gaming session and I don’t recall a patch even near that time. Thanks for the info, anyway!

hong · 2011-01-03T23:46:23.000Z

Matt Perkins:

While I’m not aruging you’re main point, because it’s silly, I think you might want to consider the bolded text above…done? Now think about the 7-9 scale and tell me again how “independent” reviews are…

Independence is independent of range.

Trust me, I’m a statistician.

Strollen · 2011-01-04T00:55:22.000Z

Murbella:

This is just not true.

Starcraft 2, a 12 year old game released with minor changes: 90%+ rating.

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I haven’t played it. I’m waiting for the Steam sale. But from what I understand SC2 has: an extensive single player campaign, more units, and improved AI and UI. Finally and perhaps most importantly greatly improved graphics and real 3D. Blizzard was smart to not screw too much with most successful RTS ever. The primitive graphics alone would keep a SC1 from getting anything close to 90% in 2011, since most sites average various aspects of game like graphics to come up with the final rating.

Actually Madden ratings peaked in 2004, 2005 and have been going downhill at least on the PC

TurinTur · 2011-01-04T01:19:32.000Z

Blackadar:

Look up the word hivemind and save yourself the embarrassment next time. A collection of independent reviews is in no way is a collective consciousness or groupthink.

… and the people on the forum is not a group of independent people, from different countries, and group ages, with different tastes and different game platforms, etc?

Becuase i don’t think my opinions in videogames are universally agreed by anyone else in this forum, nor i agree with anyone else tastes.

You are using a double standard, clearly.
If a group of people like a game you don’t like, and they are a majority = hivemind!
If a group of people agree with your opinions = independent thinkers!

And btw, it’s not only in this particular forum where i noticed a great praise for this game. You don’t know the times i have read “this is the true Fallout 3!” (which imo is a bit too strong claim). And no, i don’t enter in NMA forums.

hong · 2011-01-04T01:37:51.000Z

Naeblis:

… and the people on the forum is not a group of independent people, from different countries, and group ages, with different tastes and different game platforms, etc?

No. Trust me, I’m still a statistician.

Mordrak · 2011-01-04T01:52:38.000Z

Jason McCullough:

You’re not kidding. Switching back and forth between Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3 you can tell their just minor iterative improvements. Ok, the Morrowind graphics are awful, but the basic gameplay is the same.

I wouldn’t call Oblivion a minor iterative improvement on Morrowind. The broad philosophy of what they want to accomplish is similar, so you’re reacting to the similarity of their subgenre of RPG.

However, changes that I would not categorize as minor include moving combat from relying on rolls to instead taking into a account whether the player hits them similar an action game. This also included timed “special” moves of sorts.

NPC scheduling again was pretty major improvement. I guess you could argue how much of an improvement it was, but it was a big change. Plus it’s all voiced and the main storyline was much more directed for those that wanted to follow that.

Lastly, there was the inclusion of the lock picking and speech minigames. I didn’t mind them (and actually mostly licked the lock picking one), but they were an attempt introduce more interesting gameplay into what was dry dice rolls.

Kunikos · 2011-01-04T08:30:37.000Z

hong:

No. Trust me, I’m still a statistician.

So you’re 80% full of shit with a 5% error?

Stepsongrapes · 2011-01-04T08:35:50.000Z

Naeblis:

If a group of people like a game you don’t like, and they are a majority = hivemind!
If a group of people agree with your opinions = independent thinkers!

Consider the sampling involved, and I don’t mean size.

This thread is, by its nature, populated by people who are motivated enough to discuss the game, at their own volition.

While we don’t know for certain that game reviewers are truly randomly assigned to certain games for review, there’s a better chance of randomness than a self-selecting group of gamers posting in a thread.

Regardless, it all comes back to a position that the BEST you can argue is that this thread and Metacritic are equal (equally shitty or equally good). You can’t sit there and hold your nose up at Metacritic and wave this thread around like it’s authority.

extarbags · 2011-01-04T08:35:52.000Z

Blackadar:

You’re trying too hard.

48 critics gave FO3 an average review of 91 on Metacritic. 33 critics gave NV an average review score of 85. What that suggests is that both games were highly reviewed, but in general FO3 was slightly more well-received. As such, I think you’ll be hard pressed to try to prove that “most people seem to think everything in NV is superior in almost every way”. There are plenty of people who like both games.

Your claim that “there are bugs, but almost every one of these bugs are hold overs from fallout 3” is not at all accurate. There were plenty of bugs introduced by FO:NV. After all, FO3 didn’t crash XBoxes like NV did.

You have your reasons for liking NV more than FO3. I have mine for liking FO3 more than NV. As such, there’s no reason to make untrue stuff up about either game when trying to prove a point.

Wait, you’re seriously citing a numerical review aggregator? Whenever you do this, the other side wins by default.

TurinTur · 2011-01-04T08:46:25.000Z

Stepsongrapes:

Consider the sampling involved, and I don’t mean size.

This thread is, by its nature, populated by people who are motivated enough to discuss the game, at their own volition.

While we don’t know for certain that game reviewers are truly randomly assigned to certain games for review, there’s a better chance of randomness than a self-selecting group of gamers posting in a thread.

Regardless, it all comes back to a position that the BEST you can argue is that this thread and Metacritic are equal (equally shitty or equally good). You can’t sit there and hold your nose up at Metacritic and wave this thread around like it’s authority.

Hey, i was the first one in make the mentioning that!

Quoting myself
“There are 3-4 people who liked F3 better, and the rest liked Fallout New Vegas more. But maybe this thread is biased to people who liked Vegas, we should make a poll.”

Matt_Perkins · 2011-01-04T08:57:25.000Z

hong:

Independence is independent of range.

Trust me, I’m a statistician.

Trust me, I’m with the government.

Stepsongrapes · 2011-01-04T09:22:27.000Z

Naeblis:

Hey, i was the first one in make the mentioning that!

Quoting myself
“There are 3-4 people who liked F3 better, and the rest liked Fallout New Vegas more. But maybe this thread is biased to people who liked Vegas, we should make a poll.”

The fact that you propose a non-randomly selected poll to address the issue pretty much proves that you don’t get the issue.

Houngan · 2011-01-04T11:35:36.000Z

Hey, can we direct the hate back at the cazadors, please? Focus people!

H.

nKoan · 2011-01-04T11:38:51.000Z

Cazadors are terrible.

Omniscia · 2011-01-04T11:40:31.000Z

Cazadors are the new Cliff Racers.

mrmolecule88 · 2011-01-04T12:18:04.000Z

I want to point out that I hated cazadors before any of you.

Dave_Markell · 2011-01-04T12:23:50.000Z

nKoan:

Cazadors are terrible.

Omniscia:

Cazadors are the new Cliff Racers.

mrmolecule88:

I want to point out that I hated cazadors before any of you.

I’ve done three complete playthroughs of New Vegas, and cazadors have never given me any trouble at all. I avoid the areas they haunt until I hit the mid teens, and then I just head shot them into oblivion from long range. I think they’ve killed me exactly one time in the aforementioned three playthroughs, that one time being when I fast traveled into the middle of a large pack of them that had respawned after an earlier slaughter. I reloaded, fast traveled to a nearby waypoint, ran to my erstwhile destination, and proceeded to head shot them into oblivion again.