Fallout: New Vegas

Paul_cze · 2010-10-18T11:14:21.000Z

Unfortunately not. I remember interview with…I think Howard, who said they are not using idtech 5 for their next project.

MSUSteve · 2010-10-18T11:16:28.000Z

I guess I would expect Bethsoft to move to using idtech 5 (or whatever iteration is then current) in the next generation. It probably wouldn’t make much sense to reinvent the wheel for anything they’re going to release this generation.

Sarkus · 2010-10-18T11:16:35.000Z

greg wak:

Tom has said this has a lot of techincal issues over on Fidgit. I don’t quite get how this can happen a lot with an existing engine.

There have also been other reviewers here who say they aren’t seeing those problems and then there are the 360 players that have been playing all weekend on Justintv and other places and they aren’t complaining about the same things.

We’ll know more soon enough, but relying only on Tom’s reports on this is perhaps not the best way to go. His protests aside, we can’t completely rule out the failing XBox possibility. Is the XB360 after all. ;-)

Cl_Flushentityhero · 2010-10-18T11:19:00.000Z

Raife:

“Oh, that’s right, you don’t like cool stuff or saving money.” I responded, “Absolutely not, I like to spend as much as I possibly can for everything. That’s why I’m in here.” and left.

Well done, sir.

Raife · 2010-10-18T11:20:09.000Z

MSUSteve:

Did you really say that? Great response!

Yes. I don’t have a lot of tolerance for pushy salespeople.

MSUSteve · 2010-10-18T11:24:59.000Z

Raife:

Yes. I don’t have a lot of tolerance for pushy salespeople.

Nice. Typically if I ever think of a clever response, it’s always about 15 minutes after the time in which I could’ve said it.

Sarkus · 2010-10-18T11:32:26.000Z

Briosafreak:

The DLC will be released for the PC for sure, the tab inside the New Vegas main menu already works

Straight from the main guy on the official boards:

All we announced is that the first DLC will be exclusive to Xbox LIVE. It’ll be available this holiday season through Xbox LIVE.

So apparently this first one is 360 only, which is pretty damn disappointing. Basically, MS paid for the exclusivity, at least for a time, but that still means that PS3 and PC users end up feeling like second-class gamers, even if it is released for their systems later. I can at least see the reason in the 360 vs PS3 battle, but PC gamers are generally not considered direct competitors. But apparently someone (MS of all people in this case) thinks that’s how they want to look at things.

Telefrog · 2010-10-18T11:34:01.000Z

Sarkus:

So apparently this first one is 360 only, which is pretty damn disappointing. Basically, MS paid for the exclusivity, at least for a time, but that still means that PS3 and PC users end up feeling like second-class gamers, even if it is released for their systems later. I can at least see the reason in the 360 vs PS3 battle, but PC gamers are generally not considered direct competitors. But apparently someone (MS of all people in this case) thinks that’s how they want to look at things.

I bet it would’ve been different if the PC version of the game had used GFWL.

Rob_Merritt · 2010-10-18T11:38:12.000Z

Telefrog:

I bet it would’ve been different if the PC version of the game had used GFWL.

Maybe not. Look at Bioshock 2. Being tied to GFWL is likely one of the reasons why we aren’t seeing the last two DLCs.

greg_wak · 2010-10-18T11:43:08.000Z

Sarkus:

There have also been other reviewers here who say they aren’t seeing those problems and then there are the 360 players that have been playing all weekend on Justintv and other places and they aren’t complaining about the same things.

We’ll know more soon enough, but relying only on Tom’s reports on this is perhaps not the best way to go. His protests aside, we can’t completely rule out the failing XBox possibility. Is the XB360 after all. ;-)

I think the only game I let bug reports stop me from buying was Alpha Proticol. Usually I some never see the bugs many other people do, like the Gothic games for example. I will be getting FOLV but I have a backlog to finish first.

Cl_Flushentityhero · 2010-10-18T11:43:45.000Z

Sarkus:

I can at least see the reason in the 360 vs PS3 battle, but PC gamers are generally not considered direct competitors. But apparently someone (MS of all people in this case) thinks that’s how they want to look at things.

Somebody needs to remind MS that they made windows.

Dave_Markell · 2010-10-18T11:45:00.000Z

Sarkus:

So apparently this first one is 360 only, which is pretty damn disappointing. Basically, MS paid for the exclusivity, at least for a time, but that still means that PS3 and PC users end up feeling like second-class gamers, even if it is released for their systems later. I can at least see the reason in the 360 vs PS3 battle, but PC gamers are generally not considered direct competitors. But apparently someone (MS of all people in this case) thinks that’s how they want to look at things.

Terrible news. I always buy games like Fallout on the PC (for mods, natch). Oh well, all the free mod content should collectively be better than the (hopefully single) exclusive DLC.

Freezer-TPF · 2010-10-18T12:21:40.000Z

It’s okay – the first DLC is always a little awkward and disappointing anyway.

TurinTur · 2010-10-18T12:25:44.000Z

Until i saw the torrent of complaints about the DLC issue i didn’t know people bought so much into the DLC trend. I didn’t thought on buying any of the DLC, so is a non-issue for me.

Adree · 2010-10-18T12:27:15.000Z

Raife:

I stopped in a mall EB yesterday to ask when New Vegas was coming out, and the guy said Tuesday. He immediately asked if I wanted to pre-order it, and I said no. He regaled me with wild tales of free bonuses for pre-ordering, bonuses worth a lot of money. “Don’t you like to getting cool bonuses?” he said. I said no. Then he tried to get me to join their gaming club where apparently you get discounts at the store. Again I said no, and he said, “Oh, that’s right, you don’t like cool stuff or saving money.” I responded, “Absolutely not, I like to spend as much as I possibly can for everything. That’s why I’m in here.” and left.

What a jackass. It only confirmed why I hate those two stores.

My local two Gamestops have pretty awesome employees who have never pushed anything on me. I’m actually happy to shop there now.

MSUSteve · 2010-10-18T12:32:19.000Z

Naeblis:

Until i saw the torrent of complaints about the DLC issue i didn’t know people bought so much into the DLC trend. I didn’t thought on buying any of the DLC, so is a non-issue for me.

That’s a strange proclamation to make sight unseen. If you like the main game, why discount the DLC out of hand. FO3 had some great DLC, particularly Point Lookout.

serling · 2010-10-18T12:32:31.000Z

Uh-oh. It locked up again.

Note to self: Do not step on mines or trade golden gecko hides. Tom might be on to something after all.

Incendiary_Lemon · 2010-10-18T12:36:33.000Z

MSUSteve:

That’s a strange proclamation to make sight unseen. If you like the main game, why discount the DLC out of hand. FO3 had some great DLC, particularly Point Lookout.

The odious nature of horse armor and the generally paltry return per dollar has tarred DLC for many people.

MSUSteve · 2010-10-18T12:40:32.000Z

Incendiary Lemon:

The odious nature of horse armor and the generally paltry return per dollar has tarred DLC for many people.

Anyone that is boycotting DLC because of horse armor has got to jump into 2010. That’d be like avoiding Tylenol because some was poisoned in the 1980’s. DLC has come a long way since the launch of the 360 and FO3’s DLC was a shining example of that. I certainly don’t understand someone saying that he had no plans to buy the New Vegas DLC no matter what. Hell, at least wait to hear what it is.

Dave_Markell · 2010-10-18T12:49:06.000Z

MSUSteve:

That’d be like avoiding Tylenol because some was poisoned in the 1980’s.

Interesting analogy, considering all the recalls of Tylenol this year :-).