So I just got this banner ad.

Apparently, according to the woman that stayed the night at my place, too far is … not that far at all.

Which is why she won’t talk to me anymore. Seducer and charmer that I am.

Wait. Was this D or R? Where’s that darn TV Guide? Did I miss an episode?!

This was D.

I should mention, though, that R and I did not get along at all. We had one date, and I concluded that I should never speak to her again; she’s just too … mushy-minded and ditzy.

I was making a coffee and totally missed the “Previously on First date: On the buses” refresher.

Bus Girl is having regrets and wont talk to you anymore?

In some circles that could be seen as a result.

Bus Girl is indeed having regrets.

Apparently I charmed/seduced her into staying against her will, and I am responsible for her choices when she was not under the influence of anything nor being pressured into anything.

Seriously, she’s 23. Shouldn’t she be taking responsibility for her own actions? I dunno.

And umm, a result of what? Your last statement confuses me.

Remember Aaron, you’re on a forum full of Americans. Everything is the fault of someone else or external conditions.

Sounds like a headcase, you’re better off leaving that one behind.

Oh, totally.

I just set up a date with a girl I met in Tel Aviv, at my favorite bagel place. We shall refer to her as… Lady S. She is a young soldier, fit and cheerful, basically working as a bodyguard if I understood correctly. She’s in for a significantly longer stint than most Israelis, which means advanced training … don’t know what that implies yet, but I think I will find out before going out with her whether she is in training to be an assassin or something.

Not that I’d mind. Talk about feeling safe walking the streets together at night.

“So who is your target?”
“My target is you, Mr. Sofaer.”

dramatic music

Dirt has possessed the body of shift6! Quick, eviscerate him!

And umm, a result of what? Your last statement confuses me.

She only turned out to be a nutter after spending the night.

She’s Shin Bet, Aaron…better be a good boy.

Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute. Wait a fucking minute.

What are you saying here? Is she accusing you of date rape? What does “staying against her will” mean? “Not being pressured into anything”? What is going on here?

Maybe this kind of thing is just taken far more seriously here in the states. Or maybe I just live with somebody who TiVos a lot of Lifetime.

Still, this is a disturbing quote. I suggest you explicate.

Or did this thread just jump the shark and nobody noticed?

-Amanpour

Don’t you mean “Did this particular part of the thread jump the shark as well?”

Xtien,

We had a nice evening at a cafe, I suggested we head back to my place, we did, I made her dinner, at some point it started getting physical, and continued from there.

Two days later, I call her and she says that basically, she wasn’t planning on having sex with me, and the fact that she changed her mind during the evening meant it was all my fault. Or something.

There was no implication of date rape or anything… just biology.

Entirely possible. :D

In that situation I’d be happy to take responsibility.

She wasn’t planning on shagging you, but in the end she couldn’t help herself! Woohoo. etc.

Pitch it as ‘This Life’ on lower salaries and you may just have it. Most of the cast are still looking for work anyway.

Yeah, no shit. I’ve been in that boat, Aaron.

One date I had several weeks ago was with this really, really hot older woman (she was 40, if I recall correctly). So we go out to dinner, we walk around a little bit, we come back to my place. One thing leads to another, and . . .

(if you are offended by graphic language, please stop reading here)

(you have been warned)

. . . my finger exploring the ol’ love cave. I make her orgasm a few times that way (and with external stimulation). She says she wants to spend the night. She’s in one of my tshirts in my bed. I do the same thing again, but this time I introduce mr. penis. She says “No, not on the first date. I BARELY KNOW YOU.”

So now, I’m a nice enough guy, but I’ve gotten this girl off three times already and she hasn’t touched me yet. I try to persaude her to even touch me. She declines. Eventually she leaves.

A few days later I text her, “what’s up”. She responds, not much, and it comes out that she thinks I am only out for sex. I text back why do you say that? And she texts back because I didn’t want to do anything on our first date, I felt pressured when you took your dick out.

Now, in my mind, I’m thinking . . . you weren’t complaining at all when YOU got off, you even gave directions and woke the neighbors and made the dogs down the street bark. But when it was MY turn suddenly you’re a 40 year old virgin?

I told her in no uncertain terms what I thought I that idea and we haven’t spoken since.

Some girls are just like that, I think. Super guilt complexes.

The wisest piece of advice i ever heard on women, and in fact it was in a game forum by some college dude several years ago, and wasn’t even the topic of discussion but just slipped out, and which i’ve taken and learned by heart, is this:

“Women are confused. Don’t let them confuse you.”

I bow before the superior intellect of the guy that figured this out at the ripe old age of 20 (or so). I didn’t even believe myself until a few years ago. But it’s been like a sea-change in the way i approach women philosophically speaking.