Fly the not-so-friendly skies

  1. I believe that gross dudes masturbate on airplanes
  2. I believe that women are sexually assaulted on airplanes

I do not believe, based on the information available, that either happened in this case.

Because you aren’t a freak.

The idea that such a thing would rise to the level where people are writing articles about it is nuts.

If you see someone doing this, freaking say, “HEY, THAT DUDE IS JERKING OFF!”

Haven’t you checked out the airplane porn in the everything thread?

Joking aside, when someone starts masturbating in public, than all who can see it are victims, because without an audience, they wouldn’t be doing it.

If I thought someone was masturbating, I am not sure how I would react though. It’s so outside my comfort zone and it’s not like anything in life teaches us how to react to that kind of situation. And let me say, I am usually a very outspoken person, and with my ADHD, I am constantly drawing attention to myself, whether I realize it or.

Unlike my wife, who is hyper sensitive to unwanted attention. Even cat calls freak her out. She would definitely not be comfortable drawing attention to someone masturbating, even if she was a victim of this activity.

I believe that you believe you would, but I doubt you would.

That’s just me though, and I don’t believe that scenario will ever come out to test it.

Everyone often believes they are going to react “right” to the unexpected. Except we keep changing CPR instructions and giving clearer instructions because you can wind up with 20 people who know CPR standing there doing nothing when someone collapses and stops breathing, and it’s not because they’re some delicate flower trying to be a social media victim.

We want to think the best of ourselves but when this shit happens, some people just freeze or remain in this state of disbelief and embarrassment to the point of not reacting. I’m not going to blame them for that. We know it happens.

This. Conceptually, yeah, confronting and shaming seems like a natural reaction. In practice, though, most people won’t, for a range of social reasons.

As long as we all agree that’s the correct action.

I want to echo the “you don’t know what you’d do until it happens” sentiment.

I was sexually harassed by a female co-worker in the form of unwanted touching and rubbing many many years ago. It was hardly subtle and our other co-workers (mostly female) frequently commented on it to me.

I was fortunate in that it did not constitute any sort of physical, employment or emotional threat to me. I didn’t want it to happen, and it made me uncomfortable to a degree, but it was more of a large nuisance than anything else. Maybe because I didn’t feel actually threatened I guess.

However not once did I call her out, complain to management (who must also surely have seen it) or otherwise make a fuss. Even though as I said, it was uncomfortable for me. I just didn’t want to make waves. It was something I could have easily done…but for some reason I didn’t.

And if any of you are thinking “you must have enjoyed it then if you didn’t complain” I can assure you that I did not.

So I can relate and have sympathy with those who are in similar or worse situations who do not react as we might expect them too…especially if they feel threatened or frightened.

In this case the woman could have gotten out of her seat and found an attendant and been seated somewhere else. The attendant would then presumably have told the offender to cut that shit out.

I’m not blaming the victim in the sense that she somehow caused this, but her lack of action is very odd. It’s like seeing a fire break out in your kitchen. You do something or you do nothing? Doing nothing is the worst possible choice. Heck, her boyfriend was in the aisle across from her.

Does this mean the guy should go unpunished? No. I’m not sure why the airline didn’t have him at least questioned by the police. I would also think the passenger would press charges. She has that right too. It sounds like she was the one who was harmed, so take action against the guy. Tweeting about it doesn’t do anything to the dude.

I’d think that part of it was for the same reason the woman herself didn’t do anything. They didn’t want to deal with that awkward situation. And since the flight was over, they really just wanted to make the situation end with as little additional drama as possible.

Given the recent high profile United behavior, I’d probably be worried about doing anything with an airline that involved law enforcement. Like, as far as she knows, there’s equal odds that they arrest the masturbating guy or that they arrest and beat her for being disruptive on a flight.

Not saying that’s what would have happened. But I can see not wanting to make yourself visible on a flight in any way in the current environment. It’s like old Russian folk tales: if the Tsar ever notices you, for any reason (good or bad), it’s going to ruin your life, so never be noteworthy.

Did no one actually read the article?

Dixon said she was horrified and “shook silently” in her seat after noticing what the man was doing, suffering a massive panic attack while her boyfriend slept in the window seat on her other side, according to a string of tweets detailing the incident.

”i couldn’t call an attendant over because he’s in the aisle seat and would’ve heard me reporting him” she wrote in one of the tweets after she called police after the plane landed.

Why didn’t she say something to the flight attendant? Because she was frightened, and as soon as the man left the seat she did tell the flight attendants. Why didn’t she call the police instead of tweeting? She did call the police, and then only tweeted about it afterward. Why didn’t she press charges? She did press charges. It’s all there. Just read it.

Yeah, I didn’t read until the end to see that she called the police. Sounds like she has handled it.

I still find it difficult to understand why she didn’t just stand up and ask the guy to let her out. She didn’t have to say anything to him other than she wanted to use the restroom or something like that. Then she could have contacted an attendant. Again, that’s not saying that she somehow is to blame for the incident. I’m just surprised she felt unable to do anything.

I also don’t know how the guy managed to masturbate for hours. Maybe he took an overdose of viagra and got one of those four hour erections they warn you about. That part of the story is bizarre too.

Thought this topic slowed down because the airlines stopped treating their passengers, also known as their customers, like shit? Think again. They’re just making them sit in it instead, literally.

I would have missed my flight instead of accepting that… I can’t think of a single flight that that would have been worth it.

Was it a real service animal or a purse puppy? Hmmmmm.

They would’ve had to have cops drag me off the plane, if I’m honest.

So your plan would be to not sit in the seat but stand in the aisle until dragged off?

Why not just cover it with lots of blankets and offer a cash voucher for a volunteer who would sit there?

Pretty much. Assuming I needed to make the flight for some reason.

If I didn’t I’d go back into the terminal and try to contact CNN or the FAA while demanding a refund, preferably at the Delta main desk with a few dozen people listening in as I described the scenario.

How’s about they just clean the fucking seat? Jesus. Fast food restaurants are held to a higher standard.

-xtien