Justin Amash is the Independent voter Aye.
Collin Peterson (rural NW Minnesota) and Jeff Van Drew (southern New Jersey) are the two Democratic Nays, both are in reddish districts.
That’s enough Nay’s to make me wonder if this is ever going to go anywhere.
vyshka
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Were you actually expecting a Republican to vote yes?
Looks like they’re going all in on Trump and criminality.
Uh…going anywhere? What do you mean? This vote has been widely expected to go just this exact way.
Oghier
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I suspect everything depends on the polls done in the wake of the public hearings.
Also, this is hilarious. Kellyanne is basically Baghdad Bob.
You really, really can’t stop with the politicians though. Republican voters at this point are the sole thing enabling these people to continue, and they’ll just elect more next time around. Vast swaths of this country represent a clear and present danger to the rest of us.
We’re gonna need bigger prisons.
For those of you late to the party:
No articles of impeachment have been voted upon. Or even drawn up.
Today’s resolution establishes the procedures under which the current inquiry will proceed.
The House Intelligence Committee (chaired by Adam Schiff) will continue to do the investigatory work.
The House Judiciary Committee (chaired by Jerry Nadler) will get the results of investigations as they are concluded and decide whether to draw up articles of impeachment. Once they have decided and drafted those articles, they are voted upon in committee, and then go to a full house vote for adoption.
A simple majority in the House is required to adopt each article of impeachment. Articles so adopted then are turned over to the Senate.
The Senate then tries the case. The House acts as prosecutor, the White House acts as defendant, and Chief Justice John Roberts acts as the judge, while the members of the Senate are the jury.
After hearing both sides, the Senate votes to convict or not convict on the article(s) of impeachment before them. It requires a 2/3 majority (67 votes) to convict.
It is exceptionally unlikely, if not impossible, that 67 senators will vote to convict, and that has been understood from the outset. A possible best case for Democrats is that 51 senators vote to convict. Officially it will mean nothing. Unofficially, it’ll make a nice talking point that the majority of the senate throught POTUS was guilty.
Yeah I think the only ones who actually swung for the Civil War were Henry Wirtz (commandant at Andersonville) and the Lincoln assassination conspirators (including Mary Surratt, who may have been innocent). I guess it was felt that 4 years of bloody warfare and mass destruction were punishment enough. It was touch and go for Jeff Davis for a while, I think. He spent a long time clapped in irons.
Guap
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Ok, it passed, now Gaetz can crawl back into the obcurity he deserves.
Unlikely, because Dems are at an electoral/gerrymandering/voter ID/etc. disadvantage. It’s easier for Reps to elect a total asshole than for Dems.
About the only part of that you got right was ‘crawl’. He wasn’t obscure before, and he won’t suddenly stop being a clown (sorry, clowns). And he sure as hell deserves a fate far worse than obscurity.
No, now the bullshit argument shifts to you can’t use any of the testimony or evidence you got before this vote, not ever.
Guap
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Perhaps to you he wasn’t obscure. I would have remember that punchable face. :)
I mean, of course they will. Because they are throwing all of the noodles they can think of to see what sticks to the wall.
Yeah, all they have is bullshit at this point, so expect to see dumptrucks full of it.
The problem with that strategy – beyond its stupidity – is that folks like Ambassador Taylor have already expressed willingness to testify publicly.
