And they get to pretend to care about the rule of law.
He already says this and it’s blatant bullshit, who do people think becomes president if he’s impeached? Democrats don’t magically take the Whitehouse, we still end up with a Republican president.
I think Trump’s support has reached its ceiling. He’s not gaining new supporters. Those that would leave him already have. The only narrative he’ll push is one that will continue to galvanize his supporters. The question will be if the reaction to his inevitable exoneration is enough to galvanize anyone else.
antlers
5918
The plan is certainly to never lose power; to use their steadily increasing control over the federal courts to allow the kind of voting limitations that will allow continued Republican rule even as their white base becomes an ever-smaller portion of (what is not considered) the electorate.
They know if they lose power now, they will likely never get it again. This explains their grim determination to back the clown even as he presides over the end of democracy in America.
Oghier
5919
My Trumpzi neighbor thinks that Pelosi becomes President if Trump is impeached, “Because the Dems will just impeach Pence, too.”
It’s not worth debating the issue with him. Some men, you just can’t reach.
I mean there’s more than a little evidence to suggest that Pence has gotten up to some impeachable shenanigans. . .
Banzai
5921
People who listen to the facts will know trump deserves to be removed from office. We will keep hammering with facts. People who dont care about facts or only get information from fox arent the target audience and are going to vote trump. Its the rest who need to hear about gop senators who voted to aquit trump in spite of the facts.
Then we vote, and if lies and hatred win over truth and morality, we say we did the right thing, but I think enough people still care about the rule of law that dems win big on this issue overall.
I wonder if Lindsey Graham feels a tinge of guilt after Schiff invoke his BFF John McCain talking about “how we are all Ukrainian” and how defending Ukraine is part of our long chess match against Putin.
At some level, I don’t even care how the impeachment affects other. I’m getting immense satisfaction watching Adam Schiff and and the rest of the House, methodically outline, why Ukraine matters, why our values matter, and how Trump has trampled these values and then engaged in a clumsy but widespread coverup.
Jennifer Rubin captured my feelings well.
We can hold out hope that Schiff’s magnificent words will resonate with Americans, if not with a majority of the Senate. Perhaps Schiff’s call to our better angels will provide the emotional lift and inspiration to banish Trump from the Oval Office in the November election. Whether they do or not, Schiff’s words will serve as a message in the bottle — a love letter to democracy and truth for future generations. When historians look back on this dreadful time, at a president devoid of humanity an decency and a party overtaken with cultish reverence for evil, they might ask: “ Didn’t they know better? Couldn’t they see right through him ?”
The answer will be that most everyone saw Trump for what he was — a danger, a pathological liar, a self-serving demagogue with authoritarian aspirations. However, too few were willing to say it, and more important, to do something about it.
I’ve seen those polls and they look good, but I wonder how many of the respondents actually mean yes they should totally call Hunter Biden to testify? That group plus normal people would certainly be a big majority.
Not according to the polls. They suggest the impeachment and, I think, the details of the scheme that emerged from the process are costing Trump support, not gaining him support. A slim majority of Americans think he’s guilty and ought to be removed. That sure isn’t the outcome he wanted.
Sure, but there was never any hope of changing their minds, and they are a minority of voters.
That would be a normal response, but these aren’t normal times. Trump is holding Republicans in the Senate hostage. They’re almost all from red states, and their seat is guaranteed unless they’re stupid enough to piss him off; in which case he’ll find someone to run a primary campaign against them and they are gone.
KevinC
5926
I don’t think he was ever a friend, just the shark that he swam by (to paraphrase an analysis of Graham’s behavior).
McCain may have been a shark, but Graham is at best a sea cow.
Clay
5928
Aww… But Manatees are so cute. They don’t deserve the turd turtle.
I’ve seen too many videos of them together, I think they were actually friends. Graham probably does need an Alpha male in his life, and for unknown reasons Trump is the new guy.
JMR
5930
@KevinC is referencing a sick burn from this Rolling Stone article on Reek.
“People try to analyze Lindsey through the prism of the manifest inconsistencies that exist between things that he used to believe and what he’s doing now,” Schmidt says. “The way to understand him is to look at what’s consistent. And essentially what he is in American politics is what, in the aquatic world, would be a pilot fish: a smaller fish that hovers about a larger predator, like a shark, living off of its detritus. That’s Lindsey. And when he swam around the McCain shark, broadly viewed as a virtuous and good shark, Lindsey took on the patina of virtue. But wherever the apex shark is, you find the Lindsey fish hovering about, and Trump’s the newest shark in the sea. Lindsey has a real draw to power — but he’s found it unattainable on his own merits.”
Menzo
5931
Oh no, the Democratic strategy of trying to get hard-core Trump supporters to abandon him has failed! Dems in disarray!
Any more Trump defense talking points you’d like to cut and paste?
JoshL
5932
Also, I know it’s hard to remember, but the result of the 2016 election was that Clinton got more votes. Millions more. The “will of the voters” has already been subverted. That ship has sailed.
Oh I missed that article pretty funny. But I said pretty much the same thing, Lindsey needs an Alpha dog (or shark I guess)
I always pictured Lindsey as more of an ass lamprey.
