4607

My wife is sort of like this… but to be fair, she got pissed off BEFORE she found MSNBC and Maher.

Finding things to justify your anger at [something] is both a blessing and a curse of the Internet Age.

4608

Mostly a curse. It’s tough to fight the temptation just to surround yourself with stuff you already agree with.

4609

I mean a few years ago I was very intentional about curating a broad spectrum of sources. Like I didn’t agree with them often, but I did seek out and read the more considered of the conservative print media. But since 2015 I’ve all but ceased this. And it’s because they’ve gone all in on authoritarian, racist, fuck the poor, blue lives matter (more than minorities), and Trumpian doublespeak.

I can’t abide that. There is no value anymore in seeking to read and understand conservative viewpoints.

4610

Chris Wallace is an exceptional interviewer, and Shepard Smith and Bret Baier are reality-based news anchors.

This is something @Timex and I have been saying for a long while. I agree with most of the rest column.
Where I disagree is the Democrat boycott of Fox News. As long as they appear of Chris Wallace or Shepard Smith shows, and/or Wallace,Smith and Baier are moderators. I think Democrats should go on Fox to reinforce the points @Sharpe points out about the liberal views American have even many Republicans. I think Mayor Pete was right when he went on Chris Wallace’s show, he said plenty of folks in the Midwest aren’t going to see him if he doesn’t go on Fox.

The debate that Hillary did the best (according to the polls) was the one moderated by Chris Wallace, it is also the only debate where she talked more than Trump. One of the benefits of having some substance is that Wallace won’t cut you of, if you answer his question instead of BSing.

4611

Perhaps you’re right about this, but what can we conclude about Wallace, Smith, and Baier by their silent acquiescence to what passes for news from the rest of their colleagues at Fox?

4612

I wouldn’t say Smith is silent, he’s openly rebuked Hannity’s talking points during his show.

If he called out Sean by name… well he’d probably get fired.

4613

He’s a reluctant, hesitant collaborator.

4614

Around these parts we just call those people collaborators.

4615

In the final analysis this is the truth. I like Smith and Wallace, and you could argue they are trying to balance the ledger of Fox, but to truly do so they need to call out more of the Fox bullshit by it’s source. I have seen Smith disagree with the Fox corporate line, but he never truly disagrees with anyone by name on any individual item. That’s what he needs to do.

4616

I’d put it more strongly: What he does is lend his own credibility to a propaganda machine. He’s like the one ‘honest’ journalist who agrees to work for the Vichy press while pretending that he isn’t tainted by it. He is a collaborator.

4617

I don’t think REAL AMERICANS watch guys like Wallace or Shepard Smith though. Especially if one of those LYING DEMOCRATS came on.

4618

[Max Boot] I can always tell when Tucker Carlson has attacked me — something that he does with monotonous and mysterious regularity. And it’s not because I watch his antics. All I have to do is read my emails.

Sure enough, out of the blue on Tuesday night, I received this ungrammatical missive from some Carlson fan: “Max you stupid piece of s—t why are bald people so f—ing stupid?” Followed by this from another viewer: “Do you want to feed these uneducated illegal wet backs?” And then this from a third savant: “My Prayer is that when your Disgusting Liberal Ignorant A-- passes away that u Burn in Hell for Eternity.” And so on.

4619

But I can’t think of a single country that collapsed because of excessive immigration. (The Huns weren’t seeking green cards.) This is the stuff of white-supremacist fiction — it’s not reality.

haha

4620

Yeah, the idea that immigration is “how countries collapse” is nonsensical on its face.

That is literally not a thing which has ever happened, ever, in the history of the world.

Immigration is a sign that a country is HEALTHY. It’s good. It means that people actually want to live there.

Countries collapse when everyone is trying to get OUT, and you’re preventing them from doing so.

4621

I have bad news about DJT for this ‘Carlson fan’…

4622

So demographic changes resulting from immigration have never triggered dramatic political changes?

Tibet, Ukraine and the Western Hemisphere might disagree with you.

4623

You think that Tibet fell to China because of… Immigration?

Also… I think that perhaps it’s a bit of a joke to conflate immigration with colonization and the displacement of the native people in America.

Europeans didn’t just show up and say, “hey guys, we’re gonna live with you now!”

They showed up with guns, and killed them.

Immigration is not the same as invasion\colonization.

4624

Unless you’re a nationalist/supremacist. Then any influx of dirty foreign folks is a crisis and an invasion!

4625

Yeah, but i don’t think antlers falls into that category.

4626

If you don’t like my other examples, how about the Palestinians? That certainly started as immigration under the Ottomans. What about Timor? Texas in the first half of the 19th century?

I’m not saying immigration is going to cause the fall of the West; I’m just rejecting your blanket statement that immigration has never led to, if not a country’s collapse, than a dramatic change in government.

In many instances, what was immigration in real time ended up looking like colonization or invasion from the foreshortened perspective of history.