Fun in the Boy Scouts

The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.

“This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,” said A. J. Lowenthal, a sheriff’s deputy here in Imperial County, whose life clock, he says, is set around the Explorers events he helps run. “It fits right in with the honor and bravery of the Boy Scouts.”

Cathy Noriego, also 16, said she was attracted by the guns. The group uses compressed-air guns — known as airsoft guns, which fire tiny plastic pellets — in the training exercises, and sometimes they shoot real guns on a closed range.

“I like shooting them,” Cathy said. “I like the sound they make. It gets me excited.”

That says it all right there.

gotta start that nationalistic, anti-immigration fervor early i guess

“This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,”

Let the brain washing begin!

Way to get to the heart of the issue, albeit unintentionally. Anyway, the boy scouts were originally founded as a paramilitary prep movement to get those wimpy city boys ready to kill some huns. You could call this getting back to their roots.

You mean the penis envy?

“Our end goal is to create more agents,” said April McKee, a senior Border Patrol agent and mentor at the session here.
Now how can anyone be creeped out by what someone named April McKee says?

Explorers =/= not Boy Scouts

I don’t understand. Am I supposed to be upset about this or something? Because:

The responding officers — eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14 — face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shots — BAM! BAM! — fired from behind a flimsy wall. They move quickly, pellet guns drawn and masks affixed.

…sounds like total badassery. How could any teenage boy not want to do that?

Teenage boys want to do lots of things, and very few of them should be encouraged on an official level. Tolerated, up to a point, but that’s about it. CQB training can be fun, sure, but the context of indoctrination in which it is occurring is not something that I find personally acceptable.

Also, if they want to train on disgruntled Iraq veteran scenarios, I’d like to volunteer.

So like GOBOTS, then?

Yeah I think we’d all have fun with it if we knew we wouldn’t get brainwashed.

Plus, I’d really like to shoot Suzy from science class with an airsoft gun.

My morning will now be spent picturing this exact scenario. I see lots of tears and horribly scarred teens running away while throwing their airsoft guns to the ground. Beautiful.

Thanks, LK.

A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.

A Scout respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.

There’s a big difference between the Boy Scouts and the Explorers. As noted, the explorers have always been more of an internship type thing for people interested in law enforcement careers. The Boy Scouts, meanwhile, is more focused on traditional outdoor activities and skills.

from Natural Born Killers:

Everybody thought I’d gone crazy. The cops, my mom, everybody. But you see, they all missed the point of the story. I wasn’t crazy. But when I was holding the shotgun, it all became clear. I realized for the first time my one true calling in life. I’m a natural born

I wouldn’t, but I’m a pussy. I was a member of scouts, but was mostly forced into it because I needed to be a man, rawr, or something.

Those kids have pretty good trigger discipline, for kids.

It is a little eerily close to the stories of African child soldiers. Except of course for how they aren’t actually killing anybody. Also, not enough qat chewing.

See, I didn’t do scouts because the whole neckerchief/badges/pine box derby thing always seemed lame as hell to me. However, if someone had said I could run around with half-fake guns in uniforms and face TRIPWIRES AND POISON GAS…I don’t see how I possibly could have turned it down. That shit would be fun as hell.

Sure, you’ll get the redneck/blowhard/jackasses trying to teach kids what it means to be a “red-blooded American”, but it’s not like they won’t be exposed to that in Little League, Church, by their buddy’s dad, or wherever else. I fail to see the issue here.

I participated in the Explorers one time, a fairly fun canoe trip (ours was the only canoe not to turn over). At that age though, with puberty starting to hit and hanging out with dad the epitome of uncoolness, the local org fell part almost as soon as it was put together.

I joined the Boy Scouts around age 11 or so and even went on a trip with them to one of those camps. I never liked it, thought the scout stuff was pretty arbitrary, and disliked most of the kids in it. But it was when they locked me in the church basement, turned the lights out and left for the night, that i decided it wasn’t quite for me.