Game journalism backlash - the microcosm theory

Virgil_Hilts · 2015-01-29T15:05:14.000Z

pwk ain’t pro-gamergate, though

Timex · 2015-01-29T15:05:29.000Z

LMN8R:

They’re still angry about the “gamers are dead” conspiracy that never actually existed. So insecure about their own hobby being attacked that they’ll attack others based on that fabricated premise and use that fabricated premise to justify harassment.

I think that the mistake you are making here is thinking that those folks engaged in the harassment are even trying to seriously justify anything, or feel the need to do so.

Virgil_Hilts · 2015-01-29T15:06:10.000Z

I don’t even know what fucking point is attempting to be made here. Is it “I have black friends, well, not really friends, but I’ve seen a black guy play video games once, so misogyny is a myth”?

Virgil_Hilts · 2015-01-29T15:09:35.000Z

Chait’s article started all of this, and Pareene already sonned him. Trigger warning: GAWKER

Gawker

Punch-Drunk Jonathan Chait Takes On the Entire Internet

So, here is sad white man Jonathan Chait's essay about the difficulty of being a white man in the second age of "political correctness." In a neat bit of editorial trolling, New York teased the column with following question:...

So, here is sad white man Jonathan Chait’s essay about the difficulty of being a white man in the second age of “political correctness.” In a neat bit of editorial trolling, New York teased the column with following question: “Can a white, liberal man critique a culture of political correctness?”

The answer, as anyone with internet access or a television or the ability to see a newsrack could tell you, is a resounding yes, they can and pretty much constantly do. But the second half of the question, and the real point of the column, was left unwritten: Can a straight, white man do this without having to deal with people criticizing him for doing so? The answer, in 2015, is no, and that is what has Chait’s dander up.

Virgil_Hilts · 2015-01-29T15:12:34.000Z

There appears to be an enormous group of people who view contradiction as oppression. Amusingly, these people seem way more sanguine about whether centuries of legal and societal discrimination counts as oppression.

Civil and reasoned discussion about perceived problems in black American or Muslim culture, well, that’s high-minded intellectualism. Civil and reasoned discourse about actual, undeniable problems in GAMER culture? Boycott campaigns.

playingwithknives · 2015-01-29T15:53:52.000Z

Virgil Hilts:

Chait’s article started all of this, and Pareene already sonned him. Trigger warning: GAWKER
http://gawker.com/punch-drunk-jonathan-chait-takes-on-the-entire-internet-1682078451

haha, Gawker, do they just employ alinskybots or something?

Chait attacks systems and institutions, and provides examples.
Gawker attacks Chait. Textbook and predictable.

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions

Virgil_Hilts · 2015-01-29T16:53:40.000Z

Do you guys realize that this constant Alinsky shit is literally Bircher/LaRouche level conspiracy nonsense?

Edit: Looking forward to #GamerGate going through the rest of the 08 campaign red meat. Cloward-Piven, Agenda 21, the birth certificate. We’ve already done Journolist and Jeremiah Wright, lol. It really is The Tea Party: TNG.

Virgil_Hilts · 2015-01-29T16:55:41.000Z

Pareene DISAGREES with Chait. He provides examples. What the fuck are you even talking about? You’re writing like Chait is some heroic revolutionary “attacking systems and institutions”, but he’s just angry that people on the internet called The New Republic racist for being racist and also that people thought he lost that argument to TNC.

What is “freezing” and “personalizing” and “polarizing” about seeing an article you disagree with and rebutting it?

Enidigm · 2015-01-29T19:25:39.000Z

Telefrog:

Next question: What is even going on in this thread?

In the grimdark social medias of the 21st Century, there is only drama.

Starlight · 2015-01-29T19:42:36.000Z

Enidigm:

In the grimdark social medias of the 21st Century, there is only drama.

The metagame of the metagame!

Telefrog · 2015-01-29T20:20:47.000Z

This is what it’s come to:

Law & Order SVU “Intimidation Game” Air Date February 11, 2015 (9 PM ET/8C Wednesday NBC)

THE VIRTUAL WORLD BECOMES REALITY WHEN A VIDEO GAME CONVENTION TURNS INTO A CRIME SCENE

Video game developer Raina Punjabi (guest star Mouzam Makkar) solidifies the launch of her first game amid a stream of online insults, intimidation and death threats from the male-dominated gaming community. When a female employee is assaulted at a gamer convention, Detective Tutuola (Ice-T) investigates the crime but Raina refuses to delay the launch, and the cops must “level up” to protect her. Also starring Mariska Hargitay (Sgt. Olivia Benson), Kelli Giddish (Det. Amanda Rollins) and Peter Scanavino (Det. Dominick Carisi Jr.). Guest starring Peter Mark Kendall (Steven Kaplan), Susannah Flood (Sarah Keller) and Griffin Matthews (Leslie Connolly).

carltonbauheimer · 2015-01-29T20:34:20.000Z

Damn it. We’ve all lost.

Timex · 2015-01-29T20:41:56.000Z

the cops must “level up” to protect her.

/thread

Teiman · 2015-01-30T03:48:36.000Z

Telefrog:

This is what it’s come to:

We will learn that Indies are from India and code using 3D interfaces made in Visual Basic.

It will be in the top 100# things more cringewhorty of this whole thing. So it will be deadly cringewhorty, reading a TL;DR of the episode will cause a abortion in pregnant womens, have males develop prostrate cancer and childrens will suffer a fatal rectal prolapse. Direct vision of the episode (as looking at it in a TV) will instantly remove the skin, it will be 100% letal on all cases.

Wallapuctus · 2015-01-30T08:20:18.000Z

Since Ice-T came up in this thread, I’ll take this opportunity to link this song that I heard on the radio the other day. Relevant because he mentions Xbox.

Trigger warning: the entire thing?

Scuzz · 2015-01-30T10:13:41.000Z

Soapyfrog:

So infamous no one here knows what you are talking about.

Yea, I have read a lot (wasted one hell of a lot of time) of #GG threads in several places and never heard anything about a “infamous” speech.

playingwithknives · 2015-01-30T11:05:35.000Z

We’re really digging around the depths of gamergate history here but Total Biscuit said this about her speech, and this ended up being RTd and quoted on KIA, because they like TB. Alot.

Yeah and infamous might be pushing it for anyone outside of GG

Nesrie · 2015-01-30T11:59:35.000Z

playingwithknives:

Yeah and infamous might be pushing it for anyone outside of GG

I am probably going to regret asking, but aren’t you the one that keeps saying you are not inside GG? Most people are on the outskirts of this GG crowd. I wasted a lot of time weeks ago on this, and I had no idea what you were talking about either.

playingwithknives · 2015-01-30T12:42:20.000Z

Nesrie:

I am probably going to regret asking, but aren’t you the one that keeps saying you are not inside GG? Most people are on the outskirts of this GG crowd. I wasted a lot of time weeks ago on this, and I had no idea what you were talking about either.

Yeah this was around early Sept and #NotYourShield, and I was still posting on KIA and using the hashtag back then. I still scan through KIA every now and then for source material for this thread.

ShivaX · 2015-01-30T21:30:10.000Z

So Angry Joe posted a video about GG and basically took no sides.

Which means he’s obviously anti-GG. His comments are just a wall of GGers telling him how terrible Sarkeesian is and how Zoe sucked cock for reviews and the rest of it. I’m glad to see it’s still all about ethics in journalism.