So, in response to the upcoming Scientology documentary “Going Clear”, the Church of Scientology’s media mouthpiece, Freedom, created a twitter account called “Freedom Media Ethics”, for the express purpose of trying to discredit the documentary.

Which seems somewhat relevant here, but mostly it just gives me a chance to say:
Actually, it’s about ethics in Scientology journalism.

Oops.

The first time I’ve been wrong in the thread ;)

I love this if only because of how many people it’s going to irrationally anger.

She’s also in Papers, Please.

Uncertainty and probability all in one obscurely jokey response. If you tell a joke and no one recognizes it, is it still a joke?

Only if you were punching up.

You stay classy GG bros!

‘Crash Override: Our mission is to return control to the victim’:

It’s been a pretty awful year or so for a lot of people in the industry. You know why, there’s not really any need to rake over the coals here - suffice to say, humans are still hugely crappy to each other on a regular and excessive basis.

Not many people have seen more of the sharp end of that than Zoe Quinn and Alex Lifschitz. Endlessly targeted with harassment, doxxing, smear campaigns and outpourings of abuse, Quinn and Lifschitz have been through the mill, the grinder and the wars so many times that they’re probably more familiar with modern mob harassment techniques than almost anybody else.

They’re angry about it. Of course they are. You don’t suffer the slings and arrows of such outrageous idiots without working up a healthy head of resentment, but they’re not turning that anger into vengeance or negativity. Instead, they’re using it to help others who have experienced similar treatment, setting up support service Crash Override to administer advice, guidance and empathetic comfort to anyone who’s suffered at the many hands of online abusers.

“They come to us with all manner of things,” Lifschitz tells me, when I ask him what sort of problems people are approaching him with. "Some are looking for support in ongoing harassment campaigns, some are looking for commiseration after suffering the effects of older harassment. Everything you might expect, including a lot of things we’d never actually intended to field when we started out, but we’re branching out as we’re beginning to see the extent of the need that’s being illustrated to us.

“The cases seem to come in all shapes and sizes. One of the big frustrations we had when we were going through it was that even long-standing anti-harassment groups weren’t really equipped to deal with a lot of the things that were happening. Even then they’d give you a brochure and a pat on the back and send you on your way. One thing you have to recognise is that no two cases of harassment are ever the same; it depends on who the victim is, who the aggressors are, what they’re trying to do. These little differences can decide the entire course of action - whether you should just walk away, whether it needs action, counselling, whether you need to look out for your safety. They’re all wildly different, but the source is all the same: co-ordinated online mob harassment.”

“The mechanisms at large are the same, but the way that they manifest in an individual’s life can be quite different,” adds Quinn. "It’s also what they want to do about it - that’s probably the biggest factor we take into account when we’re advising people on what to do. If they’re in a situation where they’re really interested in pressing law enforcement, that will be very different to the next case where they absolutely do not want to pursue that. You can’t just say ‘go talk to the cops’ to everyone, because that’s not always good advice.

“Sometimes it’s just as someone who’s freaking out and needs help stopping pizza deliveries coming to their house or take pre-emptive action. Sometimes that’s enough, having other people around so you’re not dealing with it on your own, which was a massive problem for us when we were there. Being able to share some of the burden can be a great help to people.”

Ah yes. Crash Override Network (CON). The only anti-harassment campaign I know of that willingly denies help to victims of harassment because they’re not on the same side of the internet.

I wonder if ZQ will offer help to the people she has harassed. I won’t hold my breath.

Uh… stay classy anti-GG?

But a WisConner found the post. It was an intersectional moment of feces and fan. The flames leaped from blog to blog.

Then Liz Henry, on her Badgerbag LJ, revealed Zathlazip’s LJ user name and legal name. In the comments, Henry said, “It was like 30 seconds of googling for me to find her real name.”…

Someone left an anonymous comment at Something Awful telling Zathlazip her legal name was known. If the WisCon post was not down in a day, her boss at the university would be told she had violated school policies on sexual harassment. How a woman mocking male and female fans is sexual harassment, no one explained, but the point’s moot. Zathlazip immediately asked Something Awful’s moderators to remove her post, and, as a goon at Something Awful put it: “the White Knight Action Patrol immediately swooped into action and deleted all traces of the thread.”

Zathlazip got anonymous emails promising to make her unemployable.

People called and emailed her bosses in the hope of getting her fired.

According to Pyratejenni on journalfen, people wrote public posts about Zathlazip that have since been deleted or made private about “how they would hurt/STAB her if they saw her on the street.”

A google-bombing was launched. More blogs than I care to count made posts outing Zathlazip so anyone who googles her legal name will learn what she did and how thoroughly she’s hated.

And someone snuck into her office to leave a threat scrawled on a page from WisCon’s program book.

Zathlazip was terrified. She told the Madison Police Department about “vague threats” and the University of Wisconsin Police Department about the note in her office. She apologized on her LJ for what she had done and warned that if she got more emailed threats, she would record the ISP numbers.

But the WisConners rejected her apology. K. Tempest Bradford said if Zathlazip “feels scared, hurt, embattled, and like she can’t walk down the street without someone having something nasty to say about her, all I can say is: good. … you know that feeling in the gut you get when you’re anxious and upset and freaked out? I hope she feels that every day for a year. It still wouldn’t be enough.”

Pyratejenni may have been the only member of the community who denounced the outing. She noted that “the unspoken rule of fandom was ‘What happens in fandom, stays in fandom’” and that there was “nada about this behavior from fen normally so worried about community standards, like Coffeeandink. So it’s okay now to post people’s real names and similar information, as long as they do something that really, really pisses you off.”

Mobbing has more consequences than mobs know. As noted in “Warning: Mobbing is Legal, Work with Caution” by Jody E. Housker, Ph.D., NCC, LPC and Stephen G. Saiz, Ed.D., NCC, LPC, ACS:

…the target may find that he/she is less productive, creative, and self questioning. Mobbing can leave the target’s life in turmoil (Glass, 1999), feeling embarrassed, frustrated and untrusting. Symptoms may include crying, sleep difficulties, lack of concentration, high blood pressure, gastrointestinal problems, excessive weight loss or gain, depression, alcohol or drug abuse, avoidance of the workplace, and/or uncharacteristic fearfulness (Namie & Namie, 2000; Davenport, Schwartz and Elliot, 1999). For some the degree of symptoms may become severe and include severe depression, panic attacks, heart attack, other severe illnesses, accidents, suicide attempts, violence directed at third parties and symptoms of PTSD (Namie & Namie, 2000; Davenport, Schwartz and Elliot, 1999)

Stay classy, anti-GG of 7 years ago.

Carlton, at least the Lifschitz and Van Valkenberg trust funds are being put to a good use. (as long you are on their side of course)

Summoning White Knights every time you are in trouble sounds like a terrible super power.

Wall of Text crits forum for 2900 points of necro damage.

I’m not sure I get your point? Where was that excerpted from?

Oh I thought I linked the source. Its from Will Shetterlys essay on impact of SJWs in the SciFi community back in the mid 2000s

The author is still being doxed to this day by SJWs in the sci-fi community, 7 years on from the Wiscon flame wars, a recent post linked a whole bunch of tweets.

The essay/book is now available to download for free.

What is the position you are trying to stake out here? That harassment is ok as a response to trolling so gamergate is good, or harassment is never ok and therefore gamergate is bad?

or maybe it’s simply: other people have been harassed in the past therefore gamergate harassing people is fine? Also is trolling/bullying good or bad now?

Hope you’re all happy. The first Qt3 front page article on GG has been posted.

That is fucking awesome, right down to the Ice-T quote.

I’m just … oh, my.

Oh the anti-GG people are fine with harassment as long as it’s the right people…

AMD posted a link to a talk I gave on DirectX 12. This is the response they got:

First response:

Typical additional responses from the anti-GG crowd:

Needless to say, our COO and GM (Both women) found this ironic. Maybe I should contact Crash Override except, of course, Quinn is one who helps propagate this kind of hateful crap.

No, demonstrating what the neutral observers have commented in this thread, both sides are have factions composed of complete dicks. Both sides have factions that act the same and have done all along, and some of the same factions have been doing this for years.

Although I add one side is playing the martyrvictim and deny or justify their own mobbing, doxing and abuse and think they are the good guys.

Aposematism in action.

No one here has said they are ok with harassment, except for some pro-GG folks here who excuse it constantly.

Completely ignoring the harassment issue (i.e. assuming it doesn’t exist or it is equivalent in both directions), gamergate has no reasonable argument to make. Everything they put forward is either 1) anger at other people’s opinions or 2) untenable conspiracy theories. Unfocused rage at vague targets like “cultural marxists”, “third wave feminists” and “SJWs” is the only thing keeping it rolling on. Like all truly horrible movements it is utterly reliant on having some “other” to hate. Without the SJW bogeyman would there be any GG at all?

So it’s not hard to be anti-GG. Being pro-GG requires the same kind of cognitive dissonance needed to be anti-vaccination.