LOL the tears of culture war losers are delicious. Cry about it some more, Brad.
Also, contradiction is not oppression. “people don’t like me because I have shitty opinions, I want to be able to say whatever I want about blacks and women and gays without fear of getting called racist or sexist or homophobic” is, well, OK. What do you want anyone else to do about that?
Having an issue with the way the game industry has been covered by the gaming media over the past few years, which is the essence of GG, strikes me as basic sanity.
Why am I getting called a “rapist”? Because Kotaku chose to run a ridiculous article about a frivolous lawsuit without even making a legitimate attempt at second sourcing let alone being neutral. Other game sites picked it up without question. And why did they do that? Because the sites in question were pushing an agenda about how hard it is to be a woman in the game industry.
Now, while that is an extreme example, there are countless more piddly examples that I could give you that I’ve seen first hand. Sloppy journalism you can’t get away from, it’s in every industry. But this social-justice, politically driven tabloid crap only started in the past…7 or 8 years? Basically after the dot-com collapse and the sites started relying on amateur freelancers for a lot of content.
Or is it starting to dawn on you that maybe staking out Stardock as the official game company of #GamerGate wasn’t the wisest brand development decision you’ve made?
BTW, there was absolutely nothing “political”, “tabloid”, or in any way unethical about Kotaku’s article about the sexual harassment lawsuit. You don’t need to second source court documents.
Wow.
You think calling people rapists is okay? No wonder you’re so reviled.
But this social-justice, politically driven tabloid crap only started in the past…7 or 8 years? Basically after the dot-com collapse and the sites started relying on amateur freelancers for a lot of content.
Gaming media is about as political as a cow quietly grazing in a sunny pasture, and game developers are influenced by politics only to the extent they actually want to be.
I know you’ve had personal issues with bad reporting and people rushing to judgement in the past but in hitching your wagon to GG you are supporting exactly that same kind of behaviour with the absurd conspiracy theories and perpetuation of lies and half-truths. The biggest indictment of GG is that it is so easily demonstrated to be disinterested in actual ethical problems in games journalism, and focuses only on it’s ill-defined bogeymen. Phantom “political” enemies that can be conveniently found anywhere and everywhere as the need arises.
If it was just about journalistic ethics, everyone would be pro-GG.
I don’t think that’s a strong argument, but for the sake of discussion I’ll grant you that there may well be people with gaming journalism concern. If such serious minded people decided the time had come to act, why on earth would they choose something like the ZQ slut shaming/harassment incident as the defining incident around which to coalesce a movement? Surely any reasonable person wouldn’t want all that misogyny and harassment associated with their noble quest to clean up journalism?
That’s the hurdle I can’t get over. I can’t give any credence to the “it’s all about ethics in games journalism” crap because it would be super for those truly concerned with that to repudiate GG entirely and start some other online movement. Unless of course they were really interested in embracing the horrible behavior that GG has been associated with over time.
And even ignoring the horrible behaviour, the intellectually bankrupt conspiracy theories. It basically paints GG as a batch of crazified loons, doomed forever to be marginalized.
See how quickly the shoe switches? When it’s someone calling you out, it’s
But when someone crosses the line with you, well, you’re being harassed. That’s the extent of it, right? Some anon on Twitter called you a rapist, with no support for that claim that I’m aware of.
What exactly do you want anyone else to do about it? How can we, as a society, work towards protecting your feelings? I’m all about the civil and reasoned discourse, let’s build consensus here.
Soapy- Like, I get what you’re trying to do, but I think Brad’s told his story of woe so often that it’s kind of forgotten that he absolutely wasn’t a victim of bad journalism. The “frivolous” lawsuit that Kotaku reported on survived a motion for summary judgment, and reading the article:
There wasn’t a conspiracy to spread that article around, a lawsuit against a game company CEO(and a dueling lawsuit against an ex-employee) is absolutely newsworthy, especially in the context of a troubled game launch.
I cannot think of what part Brad objects to on journalistic merits. I can tell he’s angry about his dirty laundry getting aired, I know he’s upset about people calling him a jerk in the comments, but what did the author of that article do wrong? That’s what we keep coming back to with this GG thing over and over again. “Who, specifically, did what wrong?” is a really easy question to answer when there’s a real scandal, when there’s real corruption.
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Yeah it had so much merit that the plaintiff ate costs and gave a full apology. I was disgusted with the philosophy Brad expressed in the depositions but there really isn’t anything to say beyond that.
It wasn’t. It was the media reaction to the ZQ stuff that really made it take off. I know I didn’t really care about it until the bunches of articles showed up and all the mass deletion of threads that tried to discuss it.
I give Brad the benefit of the doubt in the interest of dialog. I honestly could not recall the particulars of this thing even though it blew up pretty big on these boards. I’ll reserve judgement on the kotaku article for now, I don’t want to turn this thread into a rehash of the merits of a particular case or incident as I feel like that would be rathole away from the broader issue.
That’s fair and definitely no need to get into a deep dive into the particulars of the case(as those are irrelevant to the reporting on that case), but if Brad(or anyone else pro-GG) want to be taken seriously they really should make an effort to identify actual wrongdoers that “consumers” are revolting against. They want to spin this endless sob story tale of victimhood at the hands of SJWs, but it seems when it comes time to naming names of those SJWs we get non-journalists AS and ZQ and a whole lot of crickets.
You know, Virgil, hopefully you’ll never have to go through what I did. Though if you did, you might actually learn a little empathy.
You bragged about how vulgar and sexist you were, and you’re still completely unapologetic about that. From this thread we’ve learned that you, as a general rule, automatically discount any claims of racism or sexism existing as liberal hoaxes.
So when you say empathy, empathy for what? A white man got his feelings hurt? I’m not your Mommy, Brad, don’t come crying to my skirts when people call you out on your shit. You can be a wilting maid clutching her pearls, or you can talk that “mad as hell, not gonna take it anymore, no filter, political correctness be damned” shit. But you don’t get it both ways.
Who, specifically, did what wrong? That’s all I want to know. I say that GamerGate is just a bunch of undereducated white guy losers resentful of a rapidly changing world, that it’s a tipping point of the toxic reactionary streak that has festered in these shut-in subcultures. You say it’s something else. Ok. Well lay it on me, buddy.
You know, Virgil. You bring nothing to this forum. Reported.
I guess what Virgil is trying to say, Brad, is that just because you are not a rapist does not discount the fact that you were an ignorant asshole. Allegedly.
