3761

Sorry, i just can’t disagree more. Caving into terrorist threats empowers terrorists and encourages more terrorism. And that’s exactly what this is. Backing out in the face of that’s is literally the worst possible response. It will only make things worse for her and everyone else.

3762

What’s the solution? If law enforcement doesn’t take precautions to ensure that viable threats can’t be acted upon, are the threatened just supposed to keep going until someone actually ends up fucking dead?

Law enforcement has proven to be incompetent at understanding how to deal with threats. Those threatened are fully in the right to not make public appearances in the meantime.

3763

The solution is to say fuck them and their threats.

99.9%, if not ALL of them, are just empty threats. You cannot be willing to give them power to control your life simply by threatening you. And make no mistake, that is exactly what you are doing. And what is worse, you are giving up control over your own life in exchange for NOTHING. You are giving up your own life, and all they are giving is a few poorly spelled grammatical atrocities typed from their parents basement.

Where does it end? If you are afraid to call the bluff, then it doesn’t ever end. You then live in fear forever, and some basement dwelling troll gets to enslave you to his will.

And for that possible 0.1% of the threats made by someone crazy enough to try and pull them off? Guess what? THEY CAN KILL YOU ANYWAY. If someone wants to kill you, they can, regardless of whether you go to a public event. You are not safe, ever. Welcome to reality. That’s just how it is.

But at least if you call their bluff and they try to pull it off, they gotta actually risk something to try and control you. After they do something, then they are almost certainly going to either die or be imprisoned.

And the reality is, what is far more likely to happen is nothing. You call their bluff, and nothing happens, and you are in control of your life again.

Giving up control of your life simply out off fear is terrible. If you walk down that road, then it will never end. You will be imprisoned by your own fear, for the rest of your life, and that life will be miserable.

3764

I’m with you on this, Timex. She should beef up security but otherwise not change her plans.

3765

What the fuck is wrong with you? Calling someone gay as a zinger? Are you twelve?

3766

And if staff were harmed, she’d be held liable. So.

3767

No she wouldn’t.

3768

It would be for a court to decide.

3769

Desslock is pretty reasonable and usually has interesting things to say in other forums. When he is confronted with things outside his conservative bubble, though, he goes off the deep end quickly.

3770

That might be an admirable political principle in the abstract, but thrusting that burden onto somebody who is already suffering from several mental issues is rather cruel.

3771

Yeah, the smaller sized elephant is that Wu seems pretty damaged herself. And like you said, it’s an admirable political principle, but it ain’t like she’s running for President. “Is my game developer tough on terrorism?” is not a big part of my purchasing decision flowchart.

It’s also not like this is a precedent. AS backed out of the Utah State speaking gig after a mass shooting threat. If you call in a bomb threat to a movie theater, the theater will evacuate. That’s not “giving in to terrorists”, that’s simple prudence.

3772

I have no idea what kind of mental problems she has, but i want to be clear, my statements about reacting to threats is not based on some notion of being principled, or doing “the right thing”.

The reason you can’t give into threats is purely practical. If you do, things will get worse for you.

3773

Most public facing game devs get death threats occasionally. Some of us get them routinely. We just don’t publicize it.

3774

You ran to this thread to whine about some anon calling you a rapist on Twitter.

But what’s your point? Spell it out.

3775

I believe we’re wrapping around to “of course this woman complaining about the toxic gaming culture is getting death threats, she should just shut up” as if that would solve the problem.

3776

Maybe if male developers and male journalist get dead threads then is not personal, and is not sexism, more like if you are getting dead threads like everyone else is because you are being treated equal (for the bad)

I guest is not the case, and womens can get worse stuff because they are women and they have to deal with creepines on top hatefullness. We are not equal, womens have it harder at some things just because are womens.

As for voicing that you are threatened, I would ask a expert, my very basic and uniformed logic is that doing so can be counterproductive and may actually fuel the fire. But maybe you can share it with friends or peer privatelly, so they know the type of shit you have to deal with.

I am tryiing to make a good post out of yours that where intented to be a quick tip and strawman argument. Please write better posts.

3777

Regardless of whatever issues someone does or doesn’t have, compelling your people to make themselves potential targets after receiving death threats seems less than palatable. I can understand where Timex is coming from and the point that it encourages more threats is a valid one. However, a studio is not a country. It doesn’t have the same resources or resiliancy. In regards to how they’re handling it in the media, I can’t blame any company for trying to make the best of a bad situation. If it helps them come out ahead in the long run, then I suppose that’s a way of making it so that the terrorists don’t win.

3778

Ha.

But here we see the real issue. Yes, men get death threats to. The Call of Duty dedicated server incident involved a ton of deeply personal harassment, IIRC. You think that’s your side because it means “ITS NOT SEXISM LOL”, but of course you immediately conceded that women get it worse. But even if they didn’t…

That’s a striking indictment of gaming culture. That’s showing, quite clearly, that “Gamers are Over” because the sort of entitled manbaby who thinks the developer of a game deserves personal harassment for nerfing their favorite gun is exactly who Leigh was talking about. Gaming culture gets better not by pretending that doesn’t happen, or by pretending it isn’t a problem. Gaming culture gets better by the high profile and public rejection of those people. Or, as #GG would put it, “bullying them” and “demonizing their core audience”.

But that isn’t their core audience. It doesn’t have to be. You can sell to well adjusted normals, our money spends just the same.

3779
3780

You open new fires in each of your posts… Is hard to have a discussion that way, for practical reasons.

I think I have replied your original doubts:

  • Why a male may share that they also get dead threads
  • Yes, some of us we think womens can have it harder
  • Yes, maybe (but not a expert) sharing dead threads in public can be a bad idea

I don’t know what to do with your last post. Is what I would describe as “confusing”. I don’t know if it is even about something, maybe is just a emotional outburst? words that mean nothing other than a emotion.

Hysterical is a word that come from uterus.

Your use of UPPERCASE LETTERS when is not neccesary translate (on the internet) to somebody saying something OUT VERY LOUD.

I am not a ideal of perfection, myself.