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1901
Wearing a sexist shirt does not mean one is a sexist. It might mean that one is unaware of why the shirt is inappropriate. Once that’s made clear, a sexist will continue wearing it and a non-sexist will not. Taylor seems to fall into the latter category.
In another thread, someone in this forum contemplated getting a tattoo without noticing that it was uncomfortably similar to a Nazi symbol. Once that was made clear, he decided against it. The tattoo may (or may not) be fascist, but the person who almost wore it certainly isn’t.
peterb
1902
If I point out that playingwithknives made an unbelievably crappy attribution, am I calling him unbelievable crap?
Guys, this is actually supposed to be about ethics in games journalism.
More like just pointing out how shrill, prudish and hypersensitive what passes for feminism is these days, so that the vast majority of women can continue to turn their backs on the pearl-clutching parody the term has come to signify.
According to the survey, just 20 percent of Americans – including 23 percent of women and 16 percent of men – consider themselves feminists.
Keep up the good work! You all are doing a great job! Everyone in the hivemind agrees!
magnet
1906
What concern trolls like you don’t understand is that it doesn’t make any difference how many Americans consider themselves “feminist”, as long as
But asked if they believe that “men and women should be social, political, and economic equals,” 82 percent of the survey respondents said they did, and just 9 percent said they did not. Equal percentages of men and women said they agreed with that statement, along with 87 percent of Democrats, 81 percent of independents and 76 percent of Republicans.
If anything, a definition of “feminism” that is too extreme for the majority may help in achieving progressive goals.
That’s pretty funny considering the reactionary right are a professional outrage outfit these days. They have a nice schtick at being offended at being found offensive, and they dial it up to 10 times louder than anything coming out of the feminists.
Exactly. Pretending to be Doctor Chill Above It All who doesn’t let anything bother him is all well and good… BUT DID YOU SEE WHAT THE VERGE PUBLISHED? LETS WRITE SOME EMAILS TO ADVERTISERS!!!
I mean, with what he was wearing? He totally deserved it.
And then there’s this:
A pornographer (and atheist) explains why the science guy’s shirt crash-landed
But you probably won’t read it because it doesn’t fit your carefully-constructed view of feminism.
Conversely, I discussed this with a friend of mine who is a scientist, and quite progressive, and she thinks the entire thing was an overreaction and had little to do with the issues faced by women in science.
Important to note the “overreaction” was a handful of blog articles. It’s fine to disagree with those articles. It’s less fine and much weirder to, as it appears #GG has gone with, demand that those articles never be written in the first place because it might hurt a man’s feelings.
What you probably shouldn’t do is ‘cleverly’ show those harridans what’s what by rhetorically judo flipping their shrill and prudish opposition to rape:
I mean, with what he was wearing? He totally deserved it.
(note: a variant of this “joke” has been on the front page of r/KIA for a day or so, because it’s about ethics in video game journalism)
Get it? Because of how for literally decades rapists were able to use the clothes their victims were wearing as a defense as the accusation of rape? But this time, a nerd faced mild public disapproval of his fashion choice. You can see how the analogy fits together so perfect. GG is so funny! Real edge in the memes and image macros and also rape jokes areas of debate. Probably because of their effortless grasp of logic and reason.
It’s all de rigeur for the outrage police on the right…portray any criticism as crazed, overwrought outrage so they can turn the whole conversation into one of tone. Not at all surprised to see the usual suspects on QT3 using that particular tactic.
As a comment noted: “There are appropriate places and times to wear clothing with sexual imagery on it” unless a woman is wearing it, then it is slut shaming. The author is effectively demanding that women cover up in public, lest anyone be subjected to “non-consensual” sexuality, or would, if they were applying the same standard to women. Demanding even the mildest forms of sexual expression (like that shirt) be restricted to so-called “appropriate” venues is the very essence of prudishness. In feminism’s case prudishness combined with hypocrisy, since feminism only applies such standards to men.
magnet
1916
If it’s prudish to insist on a minimal dress code for a government official who is being interviewed on television, then I guess prudishness is ok.
In feminism’s case prudishness combined with hypocrisy, since feminism only applies such standards to men.
Please find an example of a female government official (heck, include Fortune 500 reps if you want) who wasn’t reprimanded after conducting a TV interview with inappropriate attire.
magnet
1917
Incidentally, to Aszurom and everyone else with nightmares about the repercussions of criticizing a female or black person, I offer you exhibit A:
A prominent blog written by a white male liberal calls Sylvia Simms a “hideous person” and “the worst person in the world”. She’s on the School Reform Commission in Philadelphia, and she really is terrible. Oh, and she happens to be a black woman. But despite hundreds of comments, nobody raises the issue of her race or gender.
Aszurom
1918
Oh, I didn’t say I had nightmares of it. I’m saying that the people who play oppression olympics feel entitled to immunity. Hell of a difference.
I draw my class lines on education, culture, integrity, candor, and desire for betterment. That transcends all the other stuff. It took me a long time to realize how right mom was… people judge you based on the company you keep and your conduct. People that don’t aren’t people who’s company you should keep.
Oh, and I do sometimes judge people by the shirts they wear. #shirtgate
Nesrie
1919
Yeah… i work in the medical field, and although not necessarily a hard science we have our medical staff and not a one of them would expect this to be appropriate on any given day of this week. He represented work. If someone walked around with a work badge on, during off hours, and wore this shirt it would still be a problem. Sexist or not, that shirt is sexist is not appropriate in most fields of work.
He landed a spaceship on a comet. All the people talking about what he’s wearing instead of his achievement are completely ridiculous. They’re worthless and embarrassing, unlike the heavily tattooed dude with a funky t-shirt who just accomplished one of humanity’s greatest achievements.
