You can help prevent carpal tunnel syndrome in the future just by typing “I am a moron” instead.
Equis
2762
I’d add Catelyn, Robb, and surprisingly, Jason Momoa to the list of honorable mentions. Cat in particular, is incredibly good with scenes that include Robb.
I’m less sold on Jon Snow. In the books, I always that he was kinda of an outsider, but too stoic to show it, which came from Ned’s influence. He’d stand up to fight and argue back, but he never struck me as somehow who mopes. Kit plays Jon just this side of emo mopeyness. The steward assignment scene in particular.
Equus I agree Snow has been weak. I also forgot to mention Jaime who I think is also fantastic
Him saying, “Who the fuck is calling me?!? Go fuck yourself!” would make a great voicemail/answering machine message.
Last night’s episode should have taught all non-reader viewers that the concept of “main character” means nothing in this story. In that light, so what if some people were thinking Drogo would be a main character over several seasons? Hell, I’d argue that people who were thinking this was going to somehow come down to a showdown between Drogo’s army and the Westeros are equally as shocked this morning as those who thought Eddard would join the Night’s Watch and fight off the White Walker threat alongside his bastard son and missing brother. That’s a “good thing” in my opinion. This is the stuff that keeps viewers coming back. It’s just like the legion of viewers who last week argued that Syrio isn’t dead because it happened offscreen, and are waiting (along with a legion of readers who feel the same way I might add) for his return later in the story. This kind of stuff only helps make Game of Thrones better.
Last night featured so many great performances, Sean Bean’s first among them. Maise (sp?) Williams, who plays Arya, once again nailed her role which is amazing for so young an actor. My heart was breaking during the Baelor’s Sept scene even though I knew damn well what was coming, and that was all due to watching her reactions. I’m going to really enjoy watching Arya’s story next season thanks to Miss Williams.
To give props where they are due, the actor playing Joffrey did a fantastic job with that scene as well, leading the viewers into thinking all would be OK then snatching the rug out from under them in a heartbeat, and his reaction shots were spot on as well.
Peter Dinklage continues to give a command performance as Tyrion, but I’d also give a nod to the actor playing Bronn who brings just the right measure of calm self-assurance and detached ambivalance to the role. His facial expressions during the scenes last night were worth more than a dozen lines of dialog each.
Even Jon and Rob, neither of whom I was terribly impressed with at the start of the series, have grown into their roles well. I’m looking forward to seeing if Kit Harrington’s acting range will expand as his role in the story increases.
Hugin
2766
Again, what’s with all the “The” stuff? By “main” character, I just mean “character either with significant plot significance now or long range plot significance” down the line. The show has lots of main characters. I assumed war stuff was coming later involving Drogo. Meanwhile he was getting more lines and getting more scenes lately (more than say, Jamie, the past three episodes or so).
Frankly, as the only kinda sorta character of color on the show, the idea that he wasn’t getting the same kind of POV scenes or talked less than other people didn’t mean much to me, because that could easily be subsumed under “token POC characters get raggedy ass interior lives/characterization on a hell of a lot of shows and movies.”
The main character compared to Dany.
It’s an easy case to make against people who thought he was more important than Dany, not so much those who thought he was just An Important Character in absolute terms. Viewers don’t have our PoV chapter headings to go by (and even then there are important characters who don’t have PoVs in given books, or at all.)
graller
2769
I was just on Martin’s website where he posted a link to some listing of awards for “Portal” that GoT got. Funniest one?
Sean Bean in Best Actor category
Peter Dinklage for Best Supporting Actor
How can anyone who watched all season think Tyrion is the supporting character!???
Athryn
2770
Sometimes that’s a matter of networks gamesmanship. They’ll submit someone for supporting actor or guest star, so there’s less competition. I wouldn’t be suprised to see a similar result for the Emmys.
peterb
2771
AHahhahahhaaha feel the nerdrage. You’re incensed from even the suggestion of the idea. HBO really missed a chance to grab for the brass ring.
Posted in the other thread already, buthere’s 10 minutes of Joffrey being beaten to LZ’s Achilles’ Last Stand. The internet knows how to get its own back.
You are so dumb, peterb, that there is an old internet cartoon about you.
That’s 2 “I was trollin” “You so were not trollin” arguments this week in the GoT threads. Only 2 people care.
peterb
2775
This is the sound of me still not caring that your feelings are hurt. But whatever.
One of the things that made Game of Thrones, the book, brilliant was that it subverted the readers’ expectations of how the narrative should go. Doing something similar vis-a-vis the narrative of the show vs. the book is an opportunity. This was done at various points by Jackson’s Lord of the Rings – in particular, I remember lots of nerdrage about the way Faramir was portrayed in Two Towers, but I thought it was a brilliant way of taking a character who everyone “knew” and introducing real dramatic tension back into the plot.)
Why stop there? Imagine an adaptation of Catcher In The Rye where, instead of just getting depressed over that kid that wrote “fuck” on the wall, Holden hunts that kid down and shoots him in the face. Talk about subverting a reader’s expectations!
That’s really not an accurate comparison. It’d be more like filming Hamlet and having the old King survive the murder attempt. Possibly interesting in the hands of someone out to do something completely different, but it would no longer be the Hamlet story so much as one that originated in the same setting. Plus, in the way you originally framed it, you are fantasizing about obvious trolling designed to piss off people if they knew anything at all about the books, which is probably why you are getting that reaction from Mark. Which is what you wanted. So everyone wins, I guess.
peterb
2778
A picture I’ve seen on the internet today was the stupid-internet-trolling-picture-meme-whose-name-i-don’t-know redone as GRRM. I don’t really think that’s fair though. I’m just saying that subverting expectations is something that makes the story great, and conversion to a new medium is an opportunity to do it again.
I think the real counterargument to my suggestion is that it plays to (or with) the (I presume) 5% of the audience that has read the book rather than the 95% that honestly don’t know what’s going to happen. And the 95% of the audience that hasn’t read the book is actually the more important audience.
Except I’m not mad. You can inform someone stupid of their derpitude without being mad about what they said.
I guess I should have been clearer and mentioned what was obviously contempt rather than anger on your part, but I thought you’d made that clear and wanted to avoid having a share in the NO U MAD cycle.
