4601

This is indeed the spoiler thread and since you asked:

Theon’s captor is

Lord Bolton’s son, Ramsay Snow, the Bastard of the Dreadfort, the guy who burned down Winterfell and he’s torturing Theon because he’s sick, sadistic fuck.

4602

Doh! I am on the current season and all this time I thought the Hound and the Mountain were the same guy… are they played by the same actor?

jesus… what a revelation…
yup too many characters to keep track of …

4603

What may have confused you is that The Mountain That Rides, Gregor Clegane, has been played by two different actors.

In the first season, he was played by Conan Stevens. In the second season, he was played by Ian Whyte.

The Hound, Sandor Clegane, has been played by Rory McCann, who also played the “YARP!” guy in Hot Fuzz.

4604

I have to concur with this, though I’m not sure if it was the show or the books that I realized this from. I’d say more but don’t want to incite another “SPOILER THREAD! NOT SPOILER THREAD!” debate.

-Gil102

4605

You just blew my mind.

4606

Seeing Tywin just walk up the steps and make Joffery slink into the throne like a little boy was priceless.

4607

I hate to be a Dany lover, it’s so predictable and cliched, but man, did she look hot in all her regalness with her raised eyebrow and dragons and all. I didn’t think it was a bad episode, it was just shuffling along with a bit more character development and a few cool set pieces (Dany, Bear and Maiden). The calm before the storm :)

I’m a bit worried about what they’re going to do with Osha. GRRM said that they wrote in more of her because the actress is so good, but she really doesn’t figure at all in the books. Maybe she’ll just run off once they get near Castle Black?

4608

Also, Joffrey’s little wheels thinking “oi, you haven’t bowed” just as Tywin turns his back and walks down the steps again, and then Tywin turning round and casually nodding “your grace”.

4609

Did you mean Gregor with one of these?

4610

Oops yeah. Sorry.

The Mountian is Gregor.

4611

I think that the episode was weak because there wasn’t a lot moving forward, a lot of the episode was dealing with what happened in the previous one, and setting down threads to be tied up later on.

Tywin is pretty smart, but he is ruthless. Calling him evil would be a bit far, he just knows how to get shit done, and he doesn’t care how many people he has to crush along the way.

But, he also isn’t very smart, his greatest weakness is underestimating everyone around him (mainly Tyrion). He puts himself on a high moral pedestal, which is kind of funny actually.

Also, learning about Tywin’s actor’s name “Charles Dance”, I immediately thought of this video…

4612

God I hated this episode; you wait the entire deal for the bear pit, and when you get there it’s a giant fumble. George R.R. Martin wrote this episode and it seems like he forgot everything that made the bear pit memorable, exciting and/or interesting. Instead he re-invented it clumsily. Gravely disappointed.

— Alan

4613

Judge a whole hour long episode on the final scene…ok Mr Hater…

4614

I’m thinking she becomes close buddies with Rickon and steals him away in the night. Any separation between her and Bran doesn’t seem like it’d be very amicable at the moment.

4615

I don’t see why the seperation should be hostile. I’m sure they could all agree there’s no reason to put Rickon needlessly in harm’s way in the north when Osha is happy staying south of the wall/going to some remote island with him.

4616

In my opinion Osha is clearly not hostile to anyone in the group. Her attitude is a strictly fear based defensive mechanism. She’s wigging out as they get closer and closer to the wall, and now they’re supposed to go past the wall!

On the bear scene, I thought it was very well done. That’s because first of all, if felt realistic to me, as realistic as such a scenario can be anyways. The problem with those kinds of scenes is that if you juice up the threat, it gets silly. Either the animal acts completely tame, or something dumb like punching the animal in the face saves the day. This scene was scary enough for me to think “I wouldn’t want to be in that pit with that bear even if he is trained”.

4617

I’m disappointed that GRRM would waste so much of his limited screen time with Theon’s clumsy porn scene. The books have their share of fairly descriptive sex acts, and that’s fine. He doesn’t have tight time constraints in the books like he does in the HBO series.

This TV show has some scenes and characters just pared down to the absolute bare bones and to waste time like this with Theon, I’m just shocked that GRRM would waste time with this. Surely a little more time with Davos or Stannis in this episode, who weren’t present at all, would be better spent?

4618

GRRM didn’t write the bear scene. There was some juggling of scenes between 7 and 8, and as a result a couple of scenes from next week will be written by GRRM (Tyrion’s wedding, I think). Will be interesting to see if Robb still writes a will before the RW, now that he believes his beloved queen is pregnant. I am also very interested to see whether Talisa goes to the RW, and just generally what they do with her.

4619

That’s the very definition of evil.

4620

Sadly, Bart the Bear died back in 2000. This was most probably Little Bart the Bear, which is just a bear named after Bart in honor of the original one. What I find weird, is that HBO wrote Bart the Bear in the credits.