Threatening Littlefinger is totally different than a Tyrell. She was putting him in his place because his power is frankly allot of smoke and mirrors and she made in know she knew it. Margaery has legitimate power that threatens Cersei. Its a desperate attempt by her that’s not coming from a position of confidence like it was with Littlefinger.

Given that next week’s (or I guess 2 weeks) “very important episode” is titled The Rains of Castamere, I think her discussion of the song with Margaery was mainly supposed to prep folks for what happens next.

I think that’s one reason why the show is so good. The writing there serves more than one purpose. It serves to provide a veiled threat offering insight into Cersei’s mental state, we see Margaery’s indifference to the story thus revealing the Tyrell lack of fear, and the story foreshadows future happenings.

I’ve just been thinking - you know how ep 9 is always a “big thing” in some sense? We’re obviously gearing up to RW in ep 9 next week.

What do we think the “big thing” in season 4s ep 9 will be? We’ve been told that both season 3 and season 4 cover ASOS, so … ?

I’ve just been thinking - you know how ep 9 is always a “big thing” in some sense? We’re obviously gearing up to RW in ep 9 next week.

What do we think the “big thing” in season 4s ep 9 will be? We’ve been told that both season 3 and season 4 cover ASOS, so … ?

Maybe we’ll see if Tywin shits gold or not.

I don’t know how to do spoiler tags in Tapatalk, but I imagine it starts with The Red Viper and ends with Tywin. Episode 10 cleanup can have Arya, Daeny, Tyrion fates, and end with Jon Snow and/or Stoneheart.

It’s going to be such a different show after season 4, I can’t wait. I think the first four seasons are the game of thrones being played one way, then after that the nature of the game shifts. The players all get shuffled around enough that I think it’s going to feel like a new show. In addition, I think the nature of the post-book 3 story is such that the tv show will really start to deviate, making things even more unpredictable for all viewers. Finally, if season 7 is the last one, 4-7 are going to have a hell of a forward momentum.

Oh yeah! Forgot about that lol.

George RR Martin will have to write like hell to keep up.

My guess is HBO already has their end game drawn up. If I were them I wouldn’t care if my story ended differently than the books. It’s highly unlikely he’s getting his book series ended anytime soon. So what will happen is the show will end, then years later the books will end(differently). No one will care. The show will be history at that point.

It would be nice if Martin has provided HBO with a tentative outline of his expected ending, but I don’t think it’s the least bit necessary. The exception being if the final books somehow did come out at the same time as the tv series finale.

Martin sat down with the producers and told them what his idea was for the ending of the series last yearish. It didn’t seem too in-depth (reported as “broad strokes”) but it gives the TV show guys some direction.

The stuff written specifically for the show can be great (Hound and Bronn staredown), good to okay (all this stuff with Robb), and unnecessarily bad (Theon torture scenes, Dany’s dragon being stolen). I’d rather they just follow the major plotline from the books for the later seasons (which we’re still several years off from).

I had a conversation today with a woman in my office who just finished Storm of Swords so that she wouldn’t be spoiled as she watched the last two episodes of this season. It’s been awhile since I last read SoS, and the books tend to blend together in my memory, so she raised the point that there is pretty much no way that they can cram everything that happens by the end of SoS into the next two episodes. We had some fun trying to guess what would make the cut and what would not. Without going into too much detail, I cannot imagine they would NOT have the next wedding take place this season, in fact I’m counting on it being the next episode (as I stated previously). But there is a TON of stuff, much of it pivotal, that happens afterwards but before the end of the book, so I’m curious what scenes they will decide to end each characters season with.

As for Martin and the remaining two books. I am counting on the fact that the fan base for this is now far larger than it previously was and that the TV show is a big ego boost to motivate him to write faster (and perhaps a little better than in Dance, though that’s certainly up for debate). I know he has many distractions, none the least of which is HBO signing him on to be involved with a completely different project for the network, but hopefully the incentives are all there for him to finish Game of Thrones in the next few years. Hell, HBO has enough material left to create 3 seasons easily, maybe even 4 if they stretch it, so if another book is two years away that would give him 2-3 years to finish the final book. (I know, optimism…)

What? As previously indicated a few hundred times, SoS doesn’t end in the last two episodes. It ends at the end of next season.

— Alan

My understanding was that a producer or someone already said that the show will go 7 seasons. Three are done, so we don’t have several years of show left to get to the ending. I’m assuming the last season will be all about wrapping characters and storylines up, so we’ll have three more years(4,5,6) of moving characters around. This makes sense to me since two of the latter books cover the same time and ground, just from different points of view. Assuming that many side characters and subplots will be drastically cut, if not eliminated, that’s more than enough seasons to finish everything.

Are we assuming GRRM can finish his story in 7 books? I’m more than a bit skeptical on that front.

That’s quite easy, if you just follow the GRRM way. Everybody dies at the end. The End.

If HBO/producers really do stick to ending the show after 7 seasons that pretty much assures it won’t end based on the last book(s) unless Martin does a 180 on how fast he writes.

No, no it doesn’t. The producers have said that from this point forward they can no longer do “one book one season” because of the timelines of Feast/Dance being concurrent and the sheer amount of events happening in all three (SoS, FfC and DwD). Season 4 will, by neccessity at this point in the story, be an amalgamation of end chapters from Storm of Swords combined with early chapters in both Feast and Dance. That was the point of our conversation, trying to guess which bits from SoS would make the cut for this season, and which would be pushed to next, along with which bits from Books 4 and 5 would leak into next season.

So many characters, so few episodes.

Dude, it’s been confirmed officially that Storm of Swords will be covered in two seasons of Game of Thrones. Here’s GRRM saying this himself.